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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« on: March 21, 2012, 02:29:33 PM »
CommodoreUSA releases comically expensive and inexplicably compromised PC in prefab badged case, film at 11.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 02:51:04 PM »
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Have someone specced out what this machine would cost otherwise?
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Approx. $200 for the Motherboard, $350 for the CPU, $150 for 16GB so-dimm, $140 the Blu-Ray, $60 for the Pico-PSU, $150 for the 1TB SATA drive, $64 for the case. That adds up to $1114. And that's me buying retail, assuming they have no ability to buy in bulk and get a discount.
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Oh, and the 120W power supply that case comes with isn't nearly enough to power the i7 system they're listing. I think this is just a pretty crappy attempt to troll.
More likely it's just another example of "Barry has no idea how to put together a quality PC system," like failing to have the C64x's fan drawing hot air off the board, or putting an i7 in the updated C64x configuration despite the prior heat-dispersal problems, or building a mega-spec i7 system and bottlenecking it with an old-ass graphics card...
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 01:04:06 AM »
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You would really pay a $280 premium just to have a C=/Amiga logo on a case?  A case you can buy on eBay for $65, only diff being a logo?  If so, these guys might have a market after all, lol.
That's what amazes me about this whole thing, there actually are people willing to throw away huge chunks of money on nothing more than a sticker and/or etching. I guess these are the kinds of people who keep eBay scalpers in business...
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 03:45:46 PM »
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Doesn't have to be Apple, you could use Amazon or whoever, my point is that Physical Media is basically dead... I don't like moving parts in my computer.
Hah, that's a funny definition of "physical media." Do you mean that, since you have an SSD in your computer, all your data exists in an ethereal "cloud" dimension that has transcended base matter? 'Cause I got news for you there...

In all seriousness, though, physical media isn't going anywhere yet - as pointed out, DVDs are still the format of choice for movie purchases, and while I think HDTV is a scam myself, it's not like Blu-Rays aren't selling. CDs continue to find shelf space in every store (even outside the general-merchandise retailers) no matter how much RIAA bawls about piracy.

The simple fact is that disc media has too many advantages to ignore. Optical discs don't match the storage density of Flash drives, but they're much cheaper to manufacture, and in home-video quantities that makes a huge difference. Hard disks may be slower and have to deal with moving parts (though honestly the danger there is vastly overrated, we're a long ways from the days of constant possibility of head-crash,) but SSDs can't touch 'em in price-per-megabyte.

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I think Apple was right; optical storage is, absolutely, finished. I haven't touched anything on an optical disc in at least three years, and my now 6-month old iMac's DVD drive has never been used nor will it ever be used. All the software, movies (in 1080p), TV shows and music I own were downloaded and are stored on an external drive.
Yeah, and I have a buttload of stuff on my hard drive, too, but I can't go to the thrift store and buy a used download. That's really the point behind the attempts to move away from physical media, they want to kill secondhand sales.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 10:18:52 PM »
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http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/2-welcome-mat/13674-commodore-usa-makes-it-right-lowers-prices-immediately-after-massive-consumer-outcry#13674
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

COMMODORE USA MAKES IT RIGHT; LOWERS PRICES IMMEDIATELY AFTER MASSIVE CONSUMER OUTCRY.

FORT LAUDERDALE, FL. March 22, 2012 – Commodore USA, LLC announced today  the revision of the introductory price of its latest offering, the  AMIGA mini, as well as the addition of configuration options, allowing  for the selection of both CPU and memory.

Due to an overwhelming outpouring of customer comments, along with those  posted on the major tech blogs, the company has listened to the  thousands of requests for both lower prices and more choices, and  responded today with prices and options that most respondents indicated  was in line with other current offerings.

CEO Barry Altman states “Although we were ecstatic over the enormous  traffic and positive interest generated by our recent product launch, we  were equally dismayed and disheartened by the negativity regarding our  initial pricing. In retrospect, we agree, and sincerely acknowledge our  mistake, and hope you will take a second look at our new options and  pricing.  For all those customers who purchased the new AMIGA mini since  yesterday’s launch, we have already reimbursed their credit card  account reflecting the price difference. We would also like to thank all  our supporters for their patience, as we attempt to revive the  legendary Commodore and AMIGA brands”.
I love the way Barry writes as if he expects to get newspaper articles on this Mickey Mouse outfit. What were they expecting the reaction to their selling a ~$900-1300 computer for $2500 to be?
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2012, 04:59:57 PM »
So whoever called this as a reseller scam, give yourself a pat on the back. Then have a good laugh at Barry for thinking anyone will be dumb enough to fall for it.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2012, 08:43:27 PM »
So this is the "deadbeat baby-daddy" method of franchising, then?
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