CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000

[commodorejohn]

Ah, but remember, according to dammy if you haven't picked out the exact same components then any value/cost comparison is totally invalid! After all, I worked up a PC that was better than the original top-of-the-line C64x for less than the cost of the original base-line model, but since I didn't use the same parts it doesn't count at all!

[commodorejohn]

I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.

Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market.  Where does the "Amiga" fit into that?

Here's my theory: Barry, incensed and disappointed that his $600-1500 generic Atom/i7 machines were not setting the world on fire as he fantasized, decided that the thing to do would be to set his sights on a market where people are used to paying lots of money for a machine. Surely, $1,000 extra for a case/brand-name tax would not be missed in such a purchase!

Of course, what he's completely missed is that proven track records and quality service (of which CUSA has neither) have a lot to do with the willingness to drop $5K-20K on a workstation. But that's okay, he can make up for that with his fabled business chops! Shine on, you crazy diamond!

(The reference there is to imply that Barry, like Syd Barret, must have ingested copious amounts of controlled substances to come up with what he has. The difference is that in Barry's case, it's not meant as a compliment.)

[commodorejohn]

Guess we were all too gobsmacked by the stupidity of this to think of it.

[commodorejohn]

15 We all laugh uproariously

[commodorejohn]

C=USA is just another Manchurian candidate, a front for Chinese manufacturers take one of the few areas they don't yet completely own, desktop computers....

Well, they may have slightly miscalculated in selecting a Florida furniture retailer with whom to carry out that evil scheme...let alone one who thinks that the high-end professional workstation market can be recaptured by a long-dead and oft-necromanced brand name and nothing else.

[commodorejohn]

While I appreciate your heartfelt concerns for CUSA, it's marketing and  pricing plans, cost analysis and other areas of the business, this is  not the forum for addressing your concerns and comments. It has been  posted previously that Commodore-Amiga.org is a forum to explore and  discuss our products, applications, member help and others areas of  interest that would help the members enjoy and utilize our products. It  IS NOT a forum to ridicule, second guess, deride and generally troll,  with the intent to scutinize the business decisions of the company.  There are many other forums that have attained a high degree of  expertise in this area, and my suggestion is to join them in their  discussions. This forum is visited by not only potential customers, but  others who may now, or in the future, have an interest in developing  relationships with our company. Fell free to call, PM, email or  telepathically connect with me anytime. But the continued banter  regarding what you either don't like, don't agree with, can't afford,  etc etc, has no purpose or effect on what finally becomes reality. If  this is not the product you want, don't buy it. If you can't afford it,  don't buy it. If you feel that strongly about your ability to create,  then create. But please, enough is enough already. I got your point.

Earth to Barry: if you set yourself up as the Great Resurrector of Commodore and you don't have a clue what the Commodore community wants, don't care, and can't deliver a quality product anyway, you're going to get shot down. Plugging your ears and going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAAR YOUU!" isn't going to change that.

[commodorejohn]

What an idiot. Doesn't have a clue about any of the markets he's tried to take on, expects that that utter deficiency of knowledge will be compensated for by the magical nostalgia power of a trademark that's been revived and died again half a dozen times before he even got here, ignores and insults anyone and everyone who offers their insight into what people might actually want, sulks when people point out design issues in his product until he's finally forced to give in and fix them, pouts like a baby when meanies on the Internet say mean things about him...he deserves whatever collapse CUSA eventually suffers and more.

[commodorejohn]

How many of you know about the various quasi-legal pyramid schemes that roll out in the USA every few years?

Well that was an enlightening read. I'm not going to jump right to that conclusion, since Barry is so transparently inept as a computer-manufacturer CEO that I can't see anybody investing in his venture (and I still maintain that the Disney "partnership" was bought,) but it is telling that they've spent so very much effort on trying to convince people that they're a Serious Company, Dammit...

[commodorejohn]

The Disney thing was purely a case of buying advertising space.  Disney have as much to do with making Commodore computers as they do with making Canadian computers, light bulbs and popular fizzy drinks.  

I know that and you know that, dammy doesn't seem to ;P

[commodorejohn]

So to his laughable attempt to take on a market he obviously doesn't understand at all (again,) he's added an abortion of a pre-fab case that looks like the unholy love-child of a VCR and a microwave? Good to know that the sycophants won't even have "well, it has a nice case!" as a talking point this time...

[commodorejohn]

Oh hey, they finally got a website that doesn't look like total ass! Now if only they'd managed to get a website that doesn't require Javascript to display static page content, they might have a usable website that doesn't look like total ass!

[commodorejohn]

The stock case is well known for its' shoddy IR remote.  C-USA's solution may be a bit more elegant, I suppose.

Elegant like a fan that doesn't point at the chipset it's supposed to cool?

[commodorejohn]

Him losing his **** over the blue-ray drive at someone in the cusa forum was even more hilarious.  Oh my God don't you know these are slimline slot load drives and totally worth $200 - who the hell still bothers with optical media these days?  Good God.

Hearing about stuff like this almost makes me wish I lurked there. Almost.

[commodorejohn]

Oh, definitely. It'll have a $300 mouse to go with the $1000 case.

[commodorejohn]

Yep. For as much as they've been trying to convince the Amiga community that this is The Future Of Commodore (while all the time restating that the Amiga community totally isn't their target market, therefore all objections are totally invalid,) all they've really been accomplishing is making people wonder if custom boards are really that overpriced...

('Course, I still think so, but I'll at the very least concede that $800-1000 for custom hardware compares favorably with $800-1000 for utterly vanilla Atom/i7 boards.)