You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

[commodorejohn]

I used to think Barry was a scammer, now I see he's just completely delusional.

[commodorejohn]

No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON.  If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.

So you're trying to argue for ultra-high-end commodity hardware on the basis that it's more cost-efficient than an ultra-niche market specialty board? Maybe you can start a program to provide discount snow to underprivileged penguins, while you're at it.

What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level.  That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard.  Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.

Yes, he's said as much. What we're wondering about is by what twists and turns of his very unique brand of logic he's arrived at the conclusion that high-end professional graphics workstations are the kind of thing people buy based on nostalgia from a company that can't even figure out how to properly cool a keyboard computer without constant input from end-users.

[commodorejohn]

Such policies will either kill em or make em rich.

Hint: it sure as hell ain't gonna make 'em rich.

But hey, I've been waiting for a spectacular flameout like this since around the time Barry started getting angry with people for not thinking that renting an office in a strip mall made him Big Cheese in the retrocomputing world.

[commodorejohn]

Well, they do their math, enjoying their ups and downs but competing in x86 market is harsh thing to do. Commodore64x mania will probably wear out by the next year, so in PeeCee world something new is welcome. We ll se how they will do their job by 2013.

What mania? The reaction to the C64x outside of the Commodore/Amiga community totalled one brief moment of "huh, really?" when it got its first real publicity in the outside world, followed by a handful of tech-site articles noting that "well, uh, it's a nice case, but it's just a mid-range Atom board in there, so...what's the big deal, again?" Hell, there was as much interest in CUSA generated when Barry theratened to sue OSNews. And we haven't seen the sales numbers (or rather, the real ones, not the dammy ones,) but I guarantee you if it were anything even close to 100,000 there would be a whole lot more crowing from the CUSA sycophants.

It's all but disappeared down the public-interest hole, and considering that by more than a few accounts the end-user experience has consisted of pestering Barry to fix the cooling problems until he stopped pouting and put in another fan, that's probably merciful. They don't need to revive interest, they need to let it die down until everybody has completely forgotten and then start fresh.

And big thing will be when we see the most secret OS of all times - CommodoreOS

Hint: it's going to be a Linux distribution with a custom skin on the window manager. If he's feeling really wild it might be FreeBSD.

[commodorejohn]

It probably won't be  a "someone" but "some company" that buys it for video production for $25K.    It may not make sense right now, but let the rest of the pieces of the puzzle fall into place and then make a judgement call.  Amiga was always Commodore's highest multi media system, it won't be any different under C=USA.

Wait and see what hardware is included for $25K  desktop system that business will buy.  Hint, it will not be the same as  you find in the AIO Commodore Amigas that will run 1/10th the  price.

Ah, "wait and see," dammy's go-to argument. Riddle me this, exactly what pieces of the puzzle could fall into place to make this not insane? The high-end workstation market is already saturated with vendors who all have longer and better track records than CUSA, and I would bet better pricing as well. A zombie brand name is going to change any of that, even less so than in the home market.

[commodorejohn]

I covered that with Barry on my recent phone call with him.   Things will  be come much clearer in the next few months; if not sooner.

Here's a thought: how about if you know something and you want to make a point with what you know, you tell us what that is? Because otherwise it just looks like you're full of ****, but it couldn't be that, could it? I mean, it's not like you've pulled this "just wait and see" crap to counter predictions that the C64x hardware will be bog-standard Atom boards or that the "Ubuntu as a stopgap until the release of Commodore OS" thing actually meant that "Commodore OS" was going to be a skinned Linux distro, right?

I am not at liberty to explain it but there are some  massive pieces to this puzzle you haven't heard about, yet.

Yeah, that's exactly what you've said every other time. If Barry really does have you on some kind of NDA leash, do us all a favor and note to him that it makes you the worst liason to this community outside of BigBenAussie, will ya?

[commodorejohn]

Undoubtedly. But Barry's definitions are highly variable, I mean he refers to the factory contracted to do C64x assembly as "our factory in China," for God's sake. So it's possible "strategic partners" in Barry-speak means "companies that I've talked to about giving us a bulk discount."

And if I'm wrong, I charge him and/or his lackeys with explaining what the acutal deal is rather than just going "wait and see."

[commodorejohn]

Is there a reason why C=USA can't pay for a professional?

I thought that was BigBenAussie :lol:

[commodorejohn]

And anyway, the real nerds will be waiting for Commodore’s next big project: The resurrection of the majestic Amiga, albeit in the shape of a DVD player. These machines will use PC hardware but run “Commodore OS,” a mysterious operating system that will either be awesome or awful. I can’t wait.

"Resurrection?" If by that you mean a "shambling, decaying mockery of what was once a living thing" kind of resurrection, I suppose you could say that:

(And, psst, here's a hint: "Commodore OS" will be re-skinned Linux. There's no mystery about that, no matter how much dammy insists otherwise.)

[commodorejohn]

You've been saying that for over a year now.

Don't worry, it's all part of Barry's decades-spanning MASTER PLAN! for ruling the world. He's a genuine chessmaster, that Barry, what with his legendary furniture-dealership savvy!