AmigaOne 500

[commodorejohn]

Looks about like any other boring-ass micro-ATX case, and you can get other boring-ass microATX cases for well less than the $200-400 difference between this and the cost of a SAM 460ex setup from Vesalia.

But I suppose that wouldn't have the Holy Sticker, would it? (I mean, Christ, it's already got the Holy Name...)

"Amiga: because what you really want is a computer that looks like a VCR from 1988."

[commodorejohn]

Commodore Amiga lesson: Want it?, make it!  

That's about the size of it. Problem is, nobody with the resources to make it seems to want it, for any single definition of "it."

[commodorejohn]

Oh come on, why is everyone so negative? Sure, its not the best looking case, but it is not *that* bad! Just be thankful we are getting new hardware and software, its 2011 and still people are developing stuff. The least we can do is show some respect.

Be thankful that they're offering an $1100 board in a $40 case for $1400? I think not. This notion of "you should accept anything anyone offers you because at least it's new development" is the plague of the Amiga community.

If all you want is a pretty case, go to Apple!

Funny you should mention, because you know what? I got a quad-core 2.5GHz Power Mac G5 (PPC 970, a processor which kicks the ass of the Sam's PPC 440 six ways from Sunday even clock-for-clock and core-for-core,) with 4GB of DDR2, for ~$500. That's a bit over 1/3 the cost of this, has a [strike]prettier[/strike] less ugly case, and kicks the unholy **** out of a Sam460ex. Of course, it won't run OS4 because Hyperion are stubborn nincompoops, but that's okay, either of the other NG Amigoid OSes will run on it, as well as OSX or Linux.

However for persons that doesn't have time, but have money. Or persons just plain technically inept to use a screwdriver and install OS etc. It's probably a nice choice if you like everything served.

If you don't have the 10 minutes it takes to install a motherboard in a case or (is this even possible?) can't figure out how to put it in place and use screws to secure it, you should not be using a computer.

it's just a shame that the case is so bland... I guess we all want a thick beigey plastic wedge with AMIGA embossed onto it.

Yes.

[commodorejohn]

\it's a great machine, no question. doesn't look like support for MOS is coming any time soon, though. as i'm sure the MOS developers can tell you, supporting the G5 system architecture is not exactly trivial. :lol:

Well, Piru's posted shots of MOS running on a previous-model G5, don't know how that project's coming along though. Not a tragedy for me, MOS isn't really my thing, but it'd be nice for people to have the option.

well, if, that is, you aren't interesting in supporting your own hardware ecosystem, which i think hyperion are.

And this, of course, is the answer: they don't really care what their customers want or what would be best for the community, they're out to push their line of (expensive, underpowered) products come hell or high water...

by the way, you planning on coming to amiwest next month?

Aw, I wish, but unfortunately I have way too many financial obligations and not enough income to finance a cross-country road-trip...

Having worked in a shop selling computer parts for a couple of years, I can testify that there are *plenty* of people who are too technically incompetent to be trusted with a screwdriver.

I know, I know, I just think they should be sent off to remedial computer education

As for this particular machine - if you don't like it, don't buy it. Run MorphOS or AROS on your dual G5 Mac and be happy with that. That's obviously not the market Hyperion want, and at the end of the day it's their decision. Let them at it, if they fail because of it, they fail. It's not like the MorphOS fans will be affected by that in any way, so why do they really care?

Well, obviously they're free to run their business as they see fit - but I don't see how that puts them above criticism. I wouldn't be buying an OS4 product anyway, but that doesn't mean I don't feel for the people who would like one but could really use a cheaper product, and get led on by marketing hype to speculate about this upcoming "new" product only to find out that it's the same damn thing as the old one in a pre-built configuration in an ugly case.

[commodorejohn]

So its in a pretty case AND its faster AND it has a modern operating system. You think I didnt know that? Again, if that is really all you want, I dont understand what you do on an Amiga forum. You and I know Amiga offers a lot more in other fields.

Well, what more is there? A Power Mac is as related to the Amiga hardware-wise as any of the Sam boards, faster, and cheaper, and eventually it'll run MorphOS if you want an Amigoid OS to complete the experience. (And already runs AROS hosted on OSX or Linux.) It's as authentic as any OS4 setup, which is to say "kinda-sorta." If I want True Amiga, I've got my 3000.
 

Besides all that, if you dont think its worth the money, just dont buy one! No-one is forcing you to buy this machine. Hey, Im not going to buy one..

Of course nobody's forcing me to buy one, but I thumb my nose at this "hey, if you don't like it you should just shut up and pretend not to have an opinion" argument.

[commodorejohn]

One thing that I don't get about you is that you sound really upset and angry over the prices but at the same time you say that pretty much anything is better and that doesn't add up. Now if you would like hardware to be cheaper/better so that you could run AOS 4 I would understand your reaction but if you think that it's crap then I don't know why you bother writing long and angry replies?

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't have an interest in OS4 myself, but I feel bad for people who do and are stuck with having to shell out $800-1200 for something that even a $100 used Mac outperforms.

That, and I resent the implication some people keep making, that people who express their disappointment that ACube's lead-on marketing stunt was only to announce their same product at the same basic price but in an ugly case are just haters, and that this (like the X1000) is automatically entitled to our adulation just for existing.