Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...

[commodorejohn]

And Franko didn't bother to ask them, as they have requested in their FAQ... Have you contacted them?

They don't have the rights to it! Why would you contact them?

[commodorejohn]

They DO have rights to it, and that appears to be the problem most people have with them!

They are a licensee, not a licensor. Is that so very difficult to understand?

[commodorejohn]

Good question. It is however beside the point. There's no obligation for the licensor to advertise themselves.

Even though you don't have this information or valid license due to lack of it it doesn't mean Kickstart or Workbench would somehow become Public Domain or distributing them "Fair Use".

Technically true, but I don't see why, in the absence of anybody willing to actually lay claim to being the appropriate licensor, we shouldn't make do - I damn well ain't going to wait 69 years for the copyright to expire!

[commodorejohn]

And why would you expect them to be kind and contact you ("they have had neither the decency or guts to approach me themselves" in post #89), when you created this big public mess without even asking first?

So, uh, did you actually read at the start of the thread when he said he'd already tried to get in contact with the various parties that might conceivably hold the copyright?

It is up to the small guys like Cloanto to do all the work in the form of DMCA filings. Cloanto probably just pasted some links that somebody else reported into some automated tool. And if they hadn't done this, it would have been them who was in breach of some obligation.

Oh, pity the poor little Cloanto, forced to do battle with Big Bad Franko because nobody else would do it! After all, if nobody stopped people from distributing Workbench disk images, that would [strike]harm sales of Amiga Forever[/strike] [strike]harm sales of Commodore USA's upcoming OS[/strike] [strike]harm sales of OS4[/strike] um...make Bill McEwen sad?

[commodorejohn]

Totally agree, the old Operating systems should have been released for free years ago. But I don't see why attacking Cloanto for providing a legal route to get them makes them a bad company!

When did Cloanto start providing a legal route to get them? If there's one point that's been absolutely hammered into the ground in this thread, it's that the Amiga Forever disk images do not work on a real Amiga.

[commodorejohn]

I'll agree some insults around here making me question the average maturity level though.

Yeah. Franko's hardly the only offender in that department, though.

[commodorejohn]

What about if it was available on virtual console/xbox live/psn?

That wouldn't help a hell of a lot for those of us who don't have a current-gen console, now, would it? Certainly VC and the like are cool services for console owners, and it's neat that the manufacturers are finally starting to cotton to the idea that gamers might like to play stuff that's older than five years, but some of us would just like to play our games on the real thing, thankyoumuch.