Which os for NatAmi?

[commodorejohn]

I'd probably use WB3.1, but I might give AROS a shot, just to see if I like it.

Also yeah, no way it's ever going to run OS4 or MorphOS, unless someone develops a PPC accelerator for it (which would be pretty silly) or the OSes get non-PPC versions (not likely, if they haven't done so already.)

[commodorejohn]

Says he... who thinks CUSA are going to take on Apple and thinks CUSAs PCs aren't expensive... :rolleyes:

Yeah, there's the hilarious bit "C-USA is the way of the future with their generic hardware in slightly-less-generic cases, but NatAmi is doomed to fail, fail, fail! And it's totally going to be super-expensive even though there hasn't even been a price set yet!"

[commodorejohn]

NatAmi isn't going to use an actual 060, though, except in the test models (SamuraiCrow can feel free to correct me if I've misread their site.) They're using a custom 68k variant within the FPGA. I'd bet that the lack of a $100 CPU would definitely offset the cost of a larger FPGA, so I'd be surprised if it's as expensive as the Atari Coldfire, let alone anywhere near as pricey as the SAM460. We'll have to see, though.

[commodorejohn]

And pray tell, what's the rough prices for CUSAs upcoming PCs

Oh, but that doesn't count, because they're not just a "hobby system," they're Real Computers! That you could, you know, assemble from components yourself and save money if you understand the arcane arts of operating a screwdriver and putting a plug into a socket, but then it wouldn't be AMIGA!!! because it doesn't have the boing-ball sticker...

[commodorejohn]

I thought Natami with 060 was for developers early adopters?. And I to though they were a fair way along with the FPGA CPU. if it's £500-600 quid, i'm out ;(

That's what I thought, too. Moonywolf is going off of the NatAmi site, but I recall from previous discussions that the information there is severely outdated...

[commodorejohn]

I want Amiga OS 3.X with the Natami, and i will be  glad to buy one up to 400 EUR. It would still be a good price compared  to classic hardware.

This. Even 400 EUR (and that's a high estimate, judging by the Minimig  cost) would be a bargain compared to what it would cost to get a classic  Amiga up to anywhere near the estimated performance, and well within a  lot of our budgets for retrocomputing hardware.

But I suppose Wolftothemoon can't accept the idea of paying that kind of money for anything that doesn't have an Amiga sticker and slightly-customized case on it...

[commodorejohn]

68 EUR for 4MB? What a gyp... And even 600+ EUR would be cost-effective compared to the upgrades you'd need to bring a 68k Amiga anywhere near this level of performance.

But please, continue! Any more reasons you'd like to share why NatAmi is Inevitably Doomed To Fail?

He's right.  The NatAmi will have a much  larger FPGA than the MiniMig or even the Retro Replay board.  It will  probably cost around 750-850 Euros for the prototypes and only after the  bugs are worked out will we have a Altera HardCopy version of the FPGA  made (assuming that's still the most cost-effective technology for  making fixed-functionality chips).

Hmm. Any estimate on what the cost would be once the hard-copy version is out?

[commodorejohn]

Thanks for the information. Maybe we can start a bounty on amigabounty.net for the HardCopy version, when that gets closer to being a possibility...