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Re: Personal Amiga renaissance - should I buy an Amiga 1500?
« on: January 17, 2011, 04:05:51 PM »
Unless you're talking about the Checkmate A1500 (a desktop-conversion kit for the A500,) the Amiga 1500 is just a 2000 minus the hard drive plus a second floppy, so that should be a "yes" to all the above.
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Re: Personal Amiga renaissance - should I buy an Amiga 1500?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 05:45:42 PM »
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;607305
I think if you have a 68040 or 68060 they can have 128MB RAM on them.
The  actual memory expansion capacity depends on the specific accelerator  card, but even an 020 or 030 is capable of addressing more than the  Zorro II maximum.

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Could someone paraphrase the recent Amiga developments for me please? I am still going to get the 1500 but am I right in suggesting that any new Amiga is a machine that effectively emulates an Amiga like how you can run windows on Macs now?
To paraphrase recent Amiga developments: GRARRR SNARL SNEER FLAME.

To be a little more specific about it, there's a number of different camps all doing their own thing, each with a number of loony zealot followers that spend a lot of time bickering about which one is the True Amiga. Specifically, they are:


  • The "FPGA-based reconstruction" camp with the Minimig and NatAmi projects, which focus on building new (and, in NatAmi's case, upgraded) hardware that's compatible with the oldschool 680x0-based Amigas. Can run 68k Amiga software natively.
  • The PowerPC camp, which focuses on running Amiga-based modern operating systems on PPC-based hardware like pre-Intel Macs and the upcoming X1000 board. Due to the nature of the PPC, 68k Amiga code can run natively, but as zylesea noted, it has to play nice and not do low-level hardware manipulation (as the Amiga hardware is not actually present.) For stuff that doesn't follow those rules (various games and demos, mostly) you'd have to use an emulator.
  • The x86 camp, which focuses on running Amiga-based modern operating systems on standard Intel PC hardware. Cannot run 68k Amiga software natively.
  • Commodore USA, the current (claimed) owners of the Amiga name, who are developing an x86-based PC on which they plan to run a Linux distro that's re-skinned to look like Workbench. Cannot run 68k Amiga software natively.
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Re: Personal Amiga renaissance - should I buy an Amiga 1500?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 09:47:01 PM »
Probably not, unless you're looking to do power-user type stuff. I'd bet that 1MB chip + 1-2MB fast RAM should suffice.
Computers: Amiga 1200, DEC VAXStation 4000/60, DEC MicroPDP-11/73
Synthesizers: Roland JX-10/MT-32/D-10, Oberheim Matrix-6, Yamaha DX7/FB-01, Korg MS-20 Mini, Ensoniq Mirage/SQ-80, Sequential Circuits Prophet-600, Hohner String Performer

"\'Legacy code\' often differs from its suggested alternative by actually working and scaling." - Bjarne Stroustrup