Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

[commodorejohn]

LOL there aren't gonna be any boards.  The project has been cancelled for months now.

Oh, I don't know. Going by the site, they're still pretty confident that "2010 is the year we come back."

[commodorejohn]

He'll probably sell more computers then A-eon and the Natami team combined.

Maybe so, but either one is a hell of a lot closer to an Amiga than a PC clone board in a novelty case...

[commodorejohn]

Your fetish pal "Barry" has done more with his commodore business project than you have ever done or will do so you should really refrain on commenting on the man's business plans.

Oh, he's a successful businessman? Well slap me silly! Clearly that makes him completely above any form of criticism for any of his actions or plans!

All hail Barry Altman, businessman extraordinaire!

[commodorejohn]

Why not just go with a PPC Mac like MOS has?

Because that would make too much sense for Hyperion?

Though in defense of the idea of custom PPC hardware, I'll point out that most of the PPC Macs aren't really that great by modern standards - the Power Mac G5 line is good, and the Mac Mini is a decent choice if you want something less baboon-ass ugly than a behemoth cheese-grater on your desk, but beyond that, not so much.

(No disrespect intended to the G4 machines, it's just that if your stated goal is to run OS4/MOS on hardware that allows for modern software, they fall pretty short.)

[commodorejohn]

Doesn't that all more or less back up his initial statement that these shiny new wiz bang cpu's aren't going to bring much to the table?

I dunno - 64-bit addressing would at the very least be useful for multimedia production software - even if it uses 32-bit pointers, you can at least give it up to a full 4GB of RAM if it needs it.

[commodorejohn]

Yeah, cause AROS, MorhphOS, and Amiga OS 4.1 are very similar to a Linux-like Ubuntu style OS. :rolleyes:

Of course they aren't, but that's not the point. AROS will run on modern x86 hardware with no trouble, and will run hosted on PPC hardware, and MOS will run natively on a used PPC Mac. Thus, unless you're really devoted to OS4, either a PPC Mac or an x86 PC is a cheaper (and likely equally or more powerful) solution for NG Amiga-like OS usage.

[commodorejohn]

which takes us back to this

"BTW... since Leo brought this up on Commodore-amiga.org, I can say it here I guess"

Mark Shuttleworth being the obvious reference here.

But...but don't you know we have to wait and see? It might just magically turn into an operating system with some actual kind of Amiga base late in development! Maybe Barry's fairy godmother will sprinkle it with magical Commodore dust?

[commodorejohn]

Well, at least they've decided to put the fan somewhere in the vicinity of the stuff that generates the most heat, unlike a certain other company

[commodorejohn]

You'd think in this community people would be a little leerier of long-term preorder arrangements...

[commodorejohn]

What's really disappointing isn't the PowerPC thing, but their dead-set refusal to take advantage of the surfeit of really decent PPC hardware out there. As I recall from the PA6T benchmarks I've seen, the X1000 (may/will) be only marginally better than my Power Mac G5, which is the low-end model, and which I got for a grand total of $25 + S/H. If they pulled a MorphOS and made custom boards an option instead of a requirement, the OS4 crowd would instantly have available a broad range of significantly more powerful and infinitely more affordable systems to choose from.

[commodorejohn]

It's difficult to justify the development cost of porting to out of date hardware, plus they'd be going head to head with MorphOS. I don't think the X1000 is going to work out, but Apple hardware wouldn't be a wise move either.
 
They need something new & cheap.

Could be, could be. I just mean that if they do want to stick with PPC, they'd save a lot of time and money (and have a better end product) going the MOS route. (Anyway, whatever architecture they pick there's always going to be competing products. If it's ARM they'll just wind up going against native AROS, whenever that gets finished, and x86 already has it.)

[commodorejohn]

Hmm. Well, it's real, it's not a generic x86 board, and at the very least it's less expensive than the Barrymiga. Still not something I'd pay $2300 for, though.

Also, am I the only one who doesn't actually like the boing-ball as a logo? Checkmark was way better.

[commodorejohn]

Well, that plus perhaps:

After 13 years, the Boing Ball became the official logo, finally banishing the ghost of the Amiga checkmark.

Yeah, well, I'm long past care what is or isn't official ;P Checkmark forever!