Is Vampyre not completely compatible?

[BozzerBigD]

I don't have a A500.  I have my Vampire in a A2000 so so far things have been fine (not experienced your issue).

If you have a 32G SanDisk CF card, I find using the https://apolloos.weebly.com/ builds very easy.  They are prebuit with OS3.9 and have the updates you need.  Just a thought.

 So we're promoting casual piracy on this forum again are we? Some things in Amiga-land never change. If you're going to download ApolloOS (an unlicensed OS3.9 build adapted/optimised for use with Vampire boards) then at least buy the OS3.9 CD-Rom as well:

http://www.vesalia.de/e_os39.htm

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@Soviet

There's really no nice way to say it really: People like you are scum, responsible for the death of the Commodore in the first place with your X-Copy parties and loose morals and you don't deserve to use a Vampire. Copyright exists for a reason i.e. to pay the people that invested and still invest in the Amiga platform.  H&P are still in business and Vesalia Online still sell the discs so you've got NO excuse not to buy OS3.9. If you don't I hope your CIAs fail and your Vampire short circuits!

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@Soviet

So that gives you the right to pirate the software how? You're a moron if you think that OS3.9 is suddenly freeware because H&P have no longer got a licence to develop and distribute further copies :angry: You can still buy new copies online, so how about you support the Amiga dealers and buy one?

[BozzerBigD]

It's a two-way street.  Why should anyone buy an OS or ROMs from dealers who are merely doing what end-users have been doing for years?  Which is copying the CDs/Disks and ROMs.  There hasn't been a clear owner of OS3.1 or 3.9 in years so why should any end-user pay fees to Hyperion or anyone else who is hocking a classic Amiga OS unless that dealer has a license to distribute or offers some service after the sale?  

Let's be real here.  The Amiga for all intents and purposes is dead.  The OS is dead as well.   Anyone still using a classic Amiga is a hobbyist and should not be under constant attack for obtaining whatever variant of Amiga OS 1 thru 3.9 that they choose from whatever source.

It's funny that I don't see the copyright Nazis coming out of the woodwork with my other hobby systems, like my Timex-Sinclair ZX-81, or my C-64.  No one gets attacked for modding or making those operating systems available on the net for free, but here, this seems to be a haven for arm-chair attorneys who seem to get their rocks off by preaching to anyone who doesn't buy their copy of AmigaOS from a "dealer".  Buying a copy of OS3.x from a dealer at this point in time is simply ridiculous.  And attacking people for downloading and/or modding a dead OS is simply ludicrous.  Only Amiga makes it possible....

This looks like an official product to me!



Dealers that still have stock are not commiting piracy so that doesn't get you off the hook. Would you pirate Windows 98 or XP just because Microsoft doesn't issue security updates anymore? As I've said before people with this ridiculous take on piracy were partly responsible for the Amiga dying. It didn't become a 'proper' enduring computer platform because people like you expected the games for free!!!! They were £29.99 when console games were £59.99. Chavvy thieving Amiga gamers couldn't even pay half price to the developers and publishers that gave us those classics. Some even wrote out the Alien Breed 3D / Worms code sheets by hand to beat the copy protection. Others wrote out the weird hieroglyphs from The Settlers manual. I've visited 'friends' who had these copies. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now! If sourcing OS 3.9 was a problem I'd understand BUT YOU CAN BUY IT TODAY!!!


... and also if you can afford a Vampire you can afford an AmigaOS CD, it's not expensive and you're supporting Vesalia even if H&P and Amiga Inc and the contributors have long since collected their last pay cheque.

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@ferrellsl

... and buying one of those unscrupulous copies would be JUST AS illegal as downloading ApolloOS when you don't own the original AmigaOS version it's based on and using at its core! We are not talking about abandonware here. AmigaOS is still developed by Hyperion and H&P although not in the Amiga market any more are still in existence. You can't just steal because you think you can get away with it (although if you have the original disks / CD then fine) and then encourage others to do the same on a public forum (without stipulating they need a software licence) and think that's ok!

[BozzerBigD]

This is where I disagree with you.  If I already own OS3.x then it isn't piracy to download a copy off the net. This varies by country so you should be careful who you call a pirate or a thief because this is legal in quite a few places....

As for H&P still developing  OS3.x, you are mistaken.  They stopped long ago.  And saying that Hyperion is currently developing OS3.x for the classic market is a sick joke.  Taking Kickstart ROM images and removing the Commodore trademark and adding the Hyperion trademark is not development.  It's plagiarism.  And collecting a bunch of freely available patches and updates from the net and adding them to the OS3.x disks and packaging it for sale isn't development either.

RE-read my post please. You've got the complete wrong end of the stick on a couple of important points.
1) I said it's less of a concern if you OWN the physical copy already i.e. the OS3.9 CD.
2) H&P may NOT be IN the AMIGA MARKET ANY MORE but THEY STILL EXIST!!!!!!
3) Hyperion actively develops AmigaOS (I didn't specifiy OS3.x). But Cloanto DOES sell OS3.1 on it's Amiga Forever package so IT IS STILL GETTING SOLD!

AMIGA OS IS NOT ABANDONWARE YOU CAN'T JUST STEAL IT OR SUGGEST TO OTHERS (HOWEVER TECHNICALLY / LEGALLY INEPT OR IMPRESSIONABLE THEY ARE) THAT IT IS OK TO DO SO!

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@soviet

He got the help he needed. To install ApolloOS. flaviosr had an official copy of OS3.9 he just couldn't get the CD install working on a A500 + Vampire. SpeedD408 who offered the advice clarified that he too had an official OS3.9 copy so everything is fine. I doubt everyone on the Apollo-core forum is so honest. Maybe there should be a requirement to insert an original CD-ROM during the install process to dispel the reputation of ApolloOS as a pirate's dream?