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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Ordered my AmigaOne X5000 from Amiga On The Lake in USA
« on: November 24, 2016, 04:59:06 PM »
@Iggy

I like to think of the Amiga as being adopted by Europe. The Amiga was so unloved by both the Commodore parent company (not Commodore UK which knew what a gem they had) and the U.S.A. in general due to woeful marketing (and Yanks not being as able to spot a great product without being 'SOLD & marketed' it ;-)). It is such a shame and quite frankly if Newtek and the Video Toaster hadn't come along then virtually no one in the U.S. would have heard of or remembered the Amiga.
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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Ordered my AmigaOne X5000 from Amiga On The Lake in USA
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 08:46:38 PM »
@Iggy

The truth still stands that the American media clocked the amazing graphical and multimedia abilities of the Amiga and then proceeded to ask "What is the point!" Admittedly, it's up to the parent company to market their product and the black and white Amiga advertising in the 1985 launch era were scandalous but still the media saw the Amiga (in the flesh), were wowed by it and then had no imagination as to how to use it! Steve Jobs was perhaps right that these sorts of people don't know what they need until it's marketed to them but the majority of computer users in the UK and most of Europe understood the Amiga was special so why didn't American users get it? I thought green screen PCs sucked in the 80s and I still think Windows 10 sucks now (though by not as much but still). Why did people happily waste a decade of their lives between 1985 and 1995 using substandard IBM compatible rubbish while the Amiga was cheaper, more fun and brimming with potential from the people that brought you the C64! Windows 3.0 and 3.1 sucked. The only computer I ever used that used 3.1 was a old computer circa 1996 that powered a CAD plotter. It could cope with that in a sad industrial use kind of a way, but the GUI and general experience was below par. People only used it because they were "told" to by IT managers and industry bosses. Macs were fun but black and white screens in the early days and then clunky OS and the worst mice that I ever used in the iMac days.
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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Ordered my AmigaOne X5000 from Amiga On The Lake in USA
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2016, 11:58:35 PM »
@Iggy

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Its fun to revisit, but it painfully obvious why we lost.    
I get that the software houses didn't get on board as the IBM compatibles were already installed in US business and a lot of homes by 1985 but that doesn't mean with the right marketing and journalists actually singing the Amiga's praises in the mainstream press it couldn't have made more of a dent State-side! I mean the Video Toaster was a massive success and yet I haven't seen a single historical Commodore advert to help 'broadcast' the Amigas use in broadcasting, titling and 3-D raytracing etc! The journalist said it wasn't needed because PCs were 'good enough' and Commodore didn't want to push it as anything other than the next C64-like widget to get into Toys R Us! In 1985 we had a chance. By 1987 we still had a chance in UK with the A500 (and C= UK took that chance ;-)) but by 1987 the A2000 and later the A3000 (+ would have been better) could not establish themselves as competitors to the Mac never mind the PC in America. It's very very sad. At least as I say, the Amiga is remembered fondly in Europe for gaming (and Deluxe Paint) in the same warm fuzzy way the NES is in America. Seriously, it is that much of a beloved part of a lot of 30 and 40 somethings childhoods.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2016, 12:01:26 AM by BozzerBigD »
"Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art."

John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios