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Offline pkivolowitz

Re: How much pirated Amiga software did you have?
« on: May 13, 2010, 06:01:17 PM »
I can offer two real-world factual data points made without judgment:

1. Concerning the argument about people not being able to afford software as a reason for piracy:

In Profound Effects piracy from Russia and China was so rampant that I publicized an offer of "If you are purchasing from any email address from .cn or .ru you can have the product for $1."

Not a single sale was made.

2. Concerning the argument about piracy not having a real effect on companies.

Profound Effects is no longer in business.
 

Offline pkivolowitz

Re: How much pirated Amiga software did you have?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 05:54:22 AM »
Quote from: runequester;558423
were the product one that was marketed extensively in the chinese and russian markets and relying on those sources?


Marketing was not necessary. The value of the products was well established and the tens of thousands of downloads from .ru and .cn were each accompanied by the offer to sell the software for a dollar.

Quote from: runequester;558423

Its obvious that piracy has an effect on sales, whether software, movies or music. However, its not all that obvious what this effect is.

If people stealing it are guilty of bringing down businesses, how can things survive that are given away on a donation basis?


No comparison can be made and no knowledge gained from such a comparison if made can be worthwhile.

Quote from: runequester;558423

There's more than a few webcomics f.x. that create art on a daily basis.. and had enough donations come in to make it a living, despite not selling a single thing.

The humble indie bundle of games has made 1.2 million so far, and still counting.

Radioheads "pay what you want" album reached 3 million sales despite being basically given away for whatever people wanted to pay.


See above. All of these examples are independent and non-comparable.

Success or failure of one has no value as an indicator of success of another. Different products. Different markets. Different value propositions. In the details, none of these are alike.

All I can factually say is:
  • Profound's products are well regarded and well reviewed.
  • We know a large number of professionals around the world made their living using Profound's products which they did not pay for.
  • Profound  did not earn enough income to be viable.


I acknowledge that the causality cannot be conclusively drawn.