ADPro vs. ImageFX

[pkivolowitz]

As you said IFX has AutoFX. There's nothing Adpro can do at this point that IFX can't, only IFX usually does it better

At this point? I'm sorry but I had to laugh till I fell out of my chair. I was so amused by these words that I had to join the forum so I could reply.
 
You do realize that ADPro has not been modified or maintained for more than 15 years? What are you still doing playing with it? Or ImageFX?
 
I'm still laughing.

[pkivolowitz]

I worked with ADPro for a while - even used "Fred" which was a batch processor thingy for ADPRo. I'm not sure how many people really used that but I am One Of The Few.

ADPro was the batch processor thingy for ADPro. Fred was a higher level abstraction of batch processing.
 
ADPro ran ARexx scripts. Fred ran hierarchies of ARexx scripts organized into larger blocks.
 
ADPro was ADPro. Fred ran ADPro.

[pkivolowitz]

IFX + Arexx is much more useful.

I've seen a few comments on this thread suggesting ADPro did not use ARexx. In fact, ADPro was the very first programs of any kind on the Amiga to incorporate ARexx.
 
Another ASDG product was also among the earliest on the Amiga is embrace ARexx: CygnusEd.

[pkivolowitz]

@pkivolowitz
 
weird sense of humor I guess.... regardless, that's exactly what I meant by "at this point". As Adpro wasn't improved for quite a long time, IFX reached and surpassed it at all departments including batch processing thx to Autofx and its internal frame processing tools. Glad it made you laugh though (for some reason)!

I laugh because it hasn't been modified for around 18 years - yeah - it is more than 15 years. Probably 1993?
 
I laugh because ADPro is irrelevant. So is ImageFX.
 
I laugh because people are still having this discussion.

[pkivolowitz]

And, no doubt you laugh due to being out of it (one way or another). I think Kermit Woodall may argue your "point" that ImageFX hasn't been touched in 15 years. That is true of AdPro, but Nova Designs software is another story.
Check out their web site:
http://www.novadesign.com/2008/10/imagefx-45-studio-for-amiga.html

I think I said:   "I laugh because it hasn't been modified for around 18 years  - yeah - it  is more than 15 years. Probably 1993?"
I'm sorry if it wasn't clear enough that the "it" I was referring to is ADPro. I do not believe Mr. Woodall needs to argue with a point which wasn't made.

As for being "out of it" I am not sure what you mean.

If you mean the graphics and image processing business, I can assure you that I continue to be a contributor and a partner in a post-production industry dominating product. Let me clarify - by post-production industry dominating I do mean nearly all major film producers are customers.

If by "out of it" you mean the Amiga business, you have me there. I am not engaged in the Amiga ecosystem except as a historical relic. I am satisfied with that mostly. I would like to work on an Amiga product again but I (have no time and) haven't been able to find a satisfying answer to the question of "what is an Amiga" in 2010?

You might Google my last comments on Usenet in 2009. I asked the question if I wanted to develop on the Amiga, what could I actually buy?

The thread quickly became a flame war between two other blokes and I backed away thinking that things never change. I am trying not to get that same impression from the tone of your message.

Rather than a developer of new technology for the Amiga I am far more likely to be merely a source of interesting stories. The fact is with respect to the Amiga ecosystem I am just a historical relic. Be my guest if you'd like to take pot shots at me. Lot a good it will do you.

[pkivolowitz]

Hmm, I made a web site for my family business using mostly ImageFX, CygnusEd, TVPaint, PPaint, AWeb, and FTPmount on my 15 years old Amiga. We are so busy right now that I haven't had much time to work on it more. A good part of our success is related to the web site. Plus, look at how much I saved in software compared to using newer stuff. I can usually work faster on the Amiga, believe it or not, and the Amiga has ARexx but some modern programs have features the Amiga does not. I bet I'm making more than you did at ASDG . I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

I am very happy you were able to use the tools you love to create a successful outcome. I wish you many more years of the same.

[pkivolowitz]

You make excellent points.

I was surprised to see the same arguments going on now as were going on almost two decades ago. When I saw the language to the effect of "by now, such and such is true" when one of the items being compared hadn't changed in all that time, I found it very humorous.

Clearly, ADPro and ImageFX are irrelevant to me, but not to you and not to some others. My blanket statement of irrelevance was not sensitive to that.

Just don't expect any updates to ADPro any time soon.