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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« on: April 18, 2014, 02:14:54 AM »
In theory it sounds good but starting a campaign based on no actual research or work to show...bad idea.

The sketch is poor and silly. I have been thinking about the same thing recently though, a portable amiga computer/console.

Its surely doable but such a thing takes ALOT of work.

See the dragonbox pyra, its being made for I believe 40,000 euros and that's just the prototype. Mass production will be funded with pre-orders.

http://www.pyra-handheld.com/specs.html

A portable amiga is a pipe-dream of mine too but just that.

Too many people don't seem to understand the amount of work that goes into such an undertaking. It ain't all roses.

I have a small games company and am working on a commercial title but god knows how that will work out in terms of profits.
 

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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 09:50:41 PM »
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And they're just taking off the shelf components and putting them together, with some firmware.

FPGA based designs include the physical aspect, the FPGA implementation, and firmware.

This is just an idea or dream. Most people don't go from idea to kickstarter, there's not even any details of how skilled the team* are at this type of work.  There is no way this should ever be considered news.

* okay, the team of one.
Yep the pyra is using off the shelf components, even the nubs are off the shelf this time unlike the pandora. The housing is custom designed though.

Its path to market should be a good case study for a potential amiga handheld computer at least.

An amiga handheld, if built needs cash, knowledge, pragmatism and careful meticulous steps.
 

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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 03:16:47 AM »
I believe the natami board would have been suitable for a handheld in terms of size. Natami is dead but the natami forum members have heavily alluded to the fact that Thomas is still working on a revised natami with a different name. Still I will believe it when I see it. I won't be getting my hopes up this time.

Also marcel verdasdonk is working on a new amiga chipset, progress can be followed at amigacoding.de. At least Marcel seems to be just 'getting the work done'.

Any portable amiga should be a computer too, somewhat like the pandora with its mini keyboard. An amiga console is not enough.
Oh well we can dream.
 

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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 04:24:11 AM »
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Hi

Where is this full description of the requirements for the project ?

I assume this was created when you set up a job proposal to EG Elance.com ?

Which website did you use to post your proposal and what quotes did you get ?

For example an FPGA engineer on Elance.com, how much experience in FPGA design ?

I asked a company once to reverse engineer Amiga chipset but it was a quote of 25,000 USD.

How many developers ? fulltime or part time ?

has the developer seen Minimig core or he will create own ?

I was thinking myself to hire a FPGA developer into creating an Amiga system with limited budget/constraints it would take time.
The handheld system proposed in the indiegogo campaign is just wishful thinking with no actual research done.
Its a beautiful dream but still a dream.
 

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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 09:08:26 PM »
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Yes, in the scheme of things $250k is not a lot but it is nevertheless a gamble.

Trevor is indeed one of those individuals. The core issue with his approach, and I have stated this before, is that he was too conservative. A product like the X1000 needed more. Products are like fire, and money is like oxygen; You don't feed it enough oxygen and you get a slow burn. Though I'm sure if he had the millions to spare he would have put them in and we would have seen a more rapid development of hardware and software.

If I had a spare $250k I would certainly do it. I'd use Kickstarter to make sure there's enough interest; Reduces the risk somewhat.

If you were serious about this then I would join you in a heartbeat.

I don't have much money though, what i have is going towards funding a commercial indy game atm. Fingers crossed I can make a profit.

I have been idly thinking of this exact idea for a while now but it needs money, pragmatism and meticulous planning, no fluff, bs or false promises, like so many other amiga projects.

I think it could be potentially more viable than say the armiga campaign at indiegogo, it looks like they won't be funded.
The armiga is not a very exciting proposition anyhow imo.
 

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Re: A new Amiga portable console with new custom chipset.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 10:38:27 PM »
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Won't MorphOS and AROS (once the Kernal and other issues are resolved) pretty much the solution for this? Once MorphOS switches over to ARM or x64 I'd say the sky is the limit...

...considering that those G5's, though Apple's most powerful PPC offering, are also the ones with the most hardware faults and short life spans.

 Likewise, if and or when AROS becomes a reletively bug free experience, I'd say that it, along with Magellan II are set to prepare furtile soil for all sorts of next gen Amiga development.

 The idea of creating all new custom hardware sounds intriquing and fun and all, but then if you consider how many open source and or free to develop for handheld game systems have been coming out from China and what have you, and then consider how small the homebrew scene is for each of them, the likely hood of all new Amiga hardware getting much more support than they currently are is nill.

 So again, I think in the long run the best we are going to get in regards to a new portable Amiga, would be MorphOS or Amithlon running on a laptop with a decent graphics and audio card. In the mean time we can all keep our fingers crossed for the FPGA offerings as they are the closest thing we are going to get to a real next gen Amiga any time soon.

Stuff running on a laptop is just stuff running on a laptop imo. meh.

Fpga amigas are an option yeah and I guess its not impossible to put one in a portable device... but its just fluffy cloud dreaming now of course...