Merger between AmigaOne and Pegasos dev teams

[MagicSN]

>What about convincing developers to leave their >current projects, instead using their valuable skills >on an open source project that could be available >for ever?

Please understand that people for OS 4 (and I assume the same is true for MOS) are being *payed*
for the work they do on the OS.  Few people would
quit a payed job in order to do OpenSource developement which nobody pays instead. Also I'd
name the developement of OS 4 "extremely important" (and the MOS-developers surely think the
same about MOS), while some OpenSource
apps might at best be "important, but someone else can do this too". Actually I *will* port some OpenSource things in the future - but I will only support Amiga OS 4 then

>I don't like to sound like an Anti-AmigaOS -ophile >but, I dont have high hopes for AmigaOS 4.

Well, I have, though.

> AmigaOne will only be worthwhile if the software >is modern and useful.

Agreed. And it will

>I might be interested in porting a PPC Linux to >AmigaOne or Pegasos. Already ported x86 Linux to >SH4 based Sega Dreamcast  Would anyone else be >interested in creating or using said port?

I assume you are not aware that several PPC-Linux'es are already available for both machines ?
You ever read any reports on the machines at all ?

BTW: I do not see any sense in a "merger" of both teams. Both OSes are drifting fast apart - more every week -, and neither of them could do this without giving up a considerable part of the features of their OS (or loosing compatibility...). Also there has been a lot of bad blood. Furthermore I do not see any advantage in a merger. It's not both AmigaOS, it
is AmigaOS on this side and MOS on the other side.
Some prefer AmigaOS, some prefer MOS.

Of course one team could
give up their OS totally, but that will not happen.
On the long hand of course one of them might
disappear, but we will see.

What are these "Amiga's developement problems" in the original post referring to BTW ? I am on the OS 4 Developement team and am not aware of any problems...

Steffen Haeuser

[MagicSN]

>I wouldn't have said it four months ago, but a >collaboration is something I'd rather not see. The >AOS4 effort is basically targeting a specific >community where-as the Pegasos/MorphOS is >looking at the point and beyond.

I have to admit I see our project as being more "also looking into the future"

takemehomegrandma:

>I'm sure that all clones will do well in the future, >AROS because of it's independence and openness, >MOS because of it's design and business, and OS4 >because of it's legacy and the name.

i'd put the OS design as a "pro" for OS 4...

Steffen

[MagicSN]

And again many people agree with me and disagree with you. Interestingly those who agree with you usually don't know much about the design of OS 4.

Sorry, a statement that an advantage of MOS over OS 4 would be the better design I cannot leave standing. I would state it the other way round.

Steffen

[MagicSN]

Warface: That I work for Hyperion does not mean that I have to accept if someone posts in a way
as if it would be a "well-known fact" that the design
of MOS would be better, while there are many reasons why it would be not as good. Which of the systems would be better has been disputed a lot,
though I myselves think the OS design is a clear "pro" for OS 4. That I am not a neutral person
does not mean I have to accept any claims.

Darth_X: This all has been discussed over and over
already, so I do not want to drag it into length AGAIN,
but heavily discussed issues between the two camps would be the ABox/QBox issues (a lot of stuff only available on QBox, while current MOS Apps only can use ABox, while on ExecSG you can use all features already) and the Emulation-integration (here both camps claim to have the best solution )

Note I did not claim the design of MOS would be crap,
only that the design of OS 4 would be better

When such discussion comes up again and again, please also be aware that many people are more
interested in "system advocacy" than in actual
examination of the systems. And of course many
MOS advocates do not know anything about
OS 4 nor do they care (this applies in the opposite
direction too, of course).

I think I will log off from this thread now... with "such discussions" be aware there are tons of rumours and misconceptions  flying around, and people trying to actively push such...

Steffen