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Offline vidarh

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Re: Is Amiga Inc's claim to AOS valid?
« on: April 27, 2011, 06:10:38 AM »
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I know of no such law. A property owner can try to obtain a cease and desist order and send e-mail or letters requesting the removal of material they object to.


There is no such thing as a "cease and desist order". Anyone can write a letter demanding the recipient "cease and desist" with something - it has no legal power other than serving as proof later that you asked them to stop before you went to court.

There is however the DMCA, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Under the DMCA, any US hosted content can be requested removed by anyone who claims to be the rights holder. Unless the person responsible for uploading the content files a counterclaim, the company or person hosting the content is then legally obliged to remove the content regardless of whether it has been proven in court that the person requesting removal has rights to it (however, if they don't have rights to it, the person hosting it could have legal redress if they take the matter to court, and anyone requesting removal of content they don't own rights to would have committed fraud)
 

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Re: Is Amiga Inc's claim to AOS valid?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 06:23:37 AM »
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I didn't read the whole thread but I read the point Franko made and he does have a point in American Copyright Law.

While a copyright exists for anything a person creates they must also protect that copyright to maintain it.  Some famous examples:


No, you don't. You're thinking about trademarks. Trademarks must be defended to remain valid, copyrights don't.
 

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Re: Is Amiga Inc's claim to AOS valid?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 06:36:59 AM »
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Frankly Franko, they can't counter they argument that AOS is an abandoned work. There is no ownership claimed for this product until three years after the copyright holder was dissolved.
Bloodline's right. It's a tainted property and by all rights its copyrights should not be valid.


Copyright doesn't work like that. *IF* the rights were never legally transferred, they belong to Commodore's successors-in-interest, which would be either anyone Commodore owed money or Commodore's shareholders. Sorting out who would be difficult, and frankly the only way it would happen would be if Amiga Inc. sues someone and that someone challenges the legality of their ownership claims, or if a possible successor makes a claim.

However, any copying without a valid license is still copyright infringement - the only thing that changes is how likely it is you'll get sued. For trademarks the issue is murkier, as ownership of trademarks is at least in part defined by use and whether or not someone asserts ownership.

But honestly, at this point, who cares? The ROM's are easy to obtain, and we have AROS rapidly becoming a viable replacement on classics. And regardless of any rights granted or not to Hyperion, as long as no possible other owner challenges them, they're in the clear, and they do certainly own the rights to any parts *they* have developed unless they have signed contrracts to the contrary.

Unless you're planning on suing Cloanto or Hyperion, or want to try to challenge the Amiga trademark, whether or not Amiga Inc. owns the rights is pretty much irrelevant.