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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« on: November 10, 2010, 02:26:30 PM »
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So I'm left wondering why are donations needed and what is the money used for, if someone could explain to me why, then I may consider donating myself to such projects... :)


They're not so much "needed" as they are extra encouragement to get people to tackle pieces of work they'd otherwise not have sufficient motivation to do.

People pick up and do the fun tasks or the things they need fixed themselves all the time without caring about the bounties. But a lot of what needs doing in large projects like AROS is boring drudge work that may not directly benefit the developers that are best suited to do it all that much, or they're just too big.
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 09:40:12 AM »
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sure, like I said, whatever it takes to keep them coding.
 
Don't laugh, I worked somewhere like that once. Fun gig.


Remember the scene in Swordfish where Hugh Jackman is hacking with a gun to his head while getting "serviced" by Halle Berry? My jobs usually feel like that, but without the Halle Berry part.
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 11:30:35 AM »
It's been pointed out at AROS Exec that if you want to test this, you'd do yourself a real favor if you turn off decoration (look for C: Decoration in the startup-sequence). The AROS decoration/theme code is a real resource hog even on fast x86 boxes. If you comment out / remove the call to C: Decoration it'll fall back to the 3.1 look anyway.
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 03:32:36 PM »
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The MiniMig will run with a 1 Meg KS wont it?


Mine won't at least. But that's a firmware issue, so if there's no firmware upgrade that can load a 1MB kickstart file available already, I'm sure someone will take a stab at it eventually.
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 04:25:35 PM »
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The Minimig AGA core on the Replay board supports 1 MB ROMs.
The AROS ROM boots from the floppy image. It requires 68020+ CPU.


Yet another reason for us to keep nagging you and Mike to get the Replay finished :)
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 03:03:23 PM »
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I see your point, but I am looking that it works both ways, not just Amiga files in an AROS enviroment, but AROS executables in an Amiga enviroment.

Remember that still, Amiga68k is much more optimised/faster than AROS on the same hardware. :)


There's a tool that can convert AROS ELF binaries to AmigaOS hunk files. But if you want files that work both places, just compile them for AmigaOS...
 

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Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase II) Assigned
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 05:02:49 PM »
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Which tool performs that convertion? It would be very interesting to get some AROS components working on AmigaOS.

Thanks in advance


ELF2HUNK by Jason McMullan

There are some limitations. Most notably, AROS apps using arosc.library won't work (at least not yet), and arosc.library itself won't work so moving that over won't do you any good. But apps that stick with purely the AmigaOS API will work. This restrictions makes it quite limited at the moment.

To get AROS components working on AmigaOS you're better off looking AfA.