Commodore USA

[DonnyEMU]

I have to say that the vast majority of people here are not from the USA.. Most of us here have a wildly different perspective on things, and Commodore and Commodore-Amiga were national brands 20-25 years ago that slipped out of the collective consciousness when Commodore died.. We never got a real product from gateway and any of the 4.x stuff and the power pc stuff here were mostly not even widely know by the millions and billions of people who bought 64s and Amiga 500s to even exist. There are no real stores you could buy it in and the community shrunk to the poin where it really doesn't exist. Even the AmiWest show really isn't a show anymore, it's not very well funded companies and a lot of people with really ancient hardware..

To have anyone here complain about Commodore USA is really a non-starter and no one is really going to care. Why? Because they aren't Commodore from Pennsylvania and honestly they are starting at square one with kids that are now growing up who never had a C=64 or even an Amiga product in the house..

Let's face it this is a nostalgia thing here, unlike in Europe and other nations where it's still a cult of loyal fanboys.

No one makes money today off of old Amiga products or even finds a reason to buy this kinda thing (most of us have more capable web browsers on our phones) and access youtube facebook and twitter from there (I know people that won't even email)..

This whole group here is not a market for Commodore USA,  and let me tell you the original Commodore sold many PC-10,20,30,40s etc with Microsoft DOS/Windows on it. People here won't buy a power pc based machine or OS, especially when it doesn't even run their blu-ray player which is pretty standard today. Yes Hyperion has done a nice update and I love their work, but history has moved on. Even Apple went away from the PowerPC now, and that was now YEARS ago (2-3 OS releases which are semi-annually with Apple)..

Frankly it's time to get with the program, AROS is a great OS and a great alternative for hobbyists, there is no security or encryption that I can see find in it or multi-user support, but it's coming along..

It's really time to stop complaining about use of a logo and a name that frankly if the original company was still around you wouldn't be using their products and you would be on to something else if things would have worked out differently..

[DonnyEMU]

About my cult status: I have actually been here helping people when they actually have questions on things like AmigaDOS, Intuition, Exec, Commodities, AREXX, creating device drivers, S: DEVS: LIBS: etc.. I was an original Commodore developer program member in 1984-85 (how many people here can actually say that, and yes I still have the A1000 and it still runs).. That's why I have cult status here, when there actually is a glimmer of discussion about something like gfxbase etc I am a pretty good resource for that kind of information. Unfortunately the last few years no one asks questions like this.. It's all this blah blah other platform, anyone who uses the Commodore or Amiga name is evil and bad.. Time moves on and people move on.. In some ways I believe the only healthy group that moved on here is the AROS folks.. They have a viable platform and they are moving forward with their own new software. If I looked into creating software I am not even sure I could find a hyperion developer program to even look into getting current information there.. I hope I am wrong about that one, but I wish it was more apparent where to find that information..

I also didn't take the comments as scarcasm, because at the end of Commodore, I heard from a lot of the USA management (not the CATS folks) that they were planning on stepping up PC production in the USA over Commodore-Amiga sales.. I believe that's what was Medhi Ali's stated direction because they thought it would save Commodore from Debt and they'd win over the XOR patent trolls who were at that time an annoyance that they needs to throw money at..

Also people sell hardware like what Commodore USA sells as put together kits.. In the USA the low end market is now put together kit stuff like this that you put together yourself. You buy it at places like Micro Center, Frys, NewEgg etc..  I suspect that if they sell things with a "class a" thing there it will see distribution as do it yourself kits here..  I think that's a smart idea. Most people roll their own PCs here (unless it's a laptop or a netbook).. It would make sense to do it this way (not selling in Toys'R'Us who wouldn't sell it today anyway) or Walmart who wouldn't either..