Steve Jobs: G4 is slower than Intel CPUs

[DonnyEMU]

I whole heartedly have to agree diversity and choice is the key.  The Amiga's merits (and it's children/variants) have always come from it's unique features.

However points should be made and folks I own Macs, PCs, and Amigas..  Hell I even have ran AROS on x86 from time to time..

Everyone knows that MacOS X is really a flavor of Unix underneath just like Linux is a flavor of unix, and runs on different cpus..

The truth of the matter is the Amiga is not unique anymore for it's multi-tasking, graphics, etc. Through Linux, OS X, and yes even Windows XP, the world now has multi-tasking operating systems and great graphics.

There is nothing special now about the Amiga except it's unique library of software (most of which you can't get anymore unless you are pirating software from company's that aren't around anymore)..

The Amiga was my 4th computer ever, however it was the one I most loved, it brought me into the world of painting, animation, and later desktop video production. I will always love it for what it is. I just think it was a great idea, that has been very copied by everyone and I love the OS for what it is.

Who cares if the G4 is slower than intel machines (Apple doesn't seem to care) because the Mac platform is more than the sum of it's parts, and to that effect so is the Amiga.

The Amiga community is full of very astute smart people who are very supportive and friendly.  The community is the best thing the Amiga has going for it.

[DonnyEMU]

Okay well I agree with a lot of what is being said here all except the stuff when people start trashing windows. I have had my share of problems with windows over the years, but I have never had as many problems or hardware incompatibilities as the folks here have. It amazes me to get on here and here someone say their 040/060 is more responsive than Windows XP.

Maybe I am a developer and I live in the USA but I just really see most of this stuff as just people's "inexperience" with intel hardware and software..

I always research anything I do and for the majority of smart Amiga folks the PC platform is hardly rocket science.. The only thing that gets to me on here is the anti-intel microsoft bias that exists here. I don't see pc folks ever trashing the Amiga for it's os or capabilities.

This is a world of "choice" and I really don't understand the negativity. The PC really didn't destroy or delete the Amiga market place. The Amiga caved in on itself due to problems with the company running the show at the time..

Most people who use PCs daily wouldn't agree with the sentiment about how difficult the PC is to use. Most folks on the PC platform stay with mainstream pc hardware and software don't have half the problems people talk about on here.

I think the community would attract a lot more people to the Amiga if the users weren't talking about "how much better the machine is vs this other machine" it would be nice to hear "Why"  and what they actually use this machine for. It can't be just that the PC is so problematic.

I wanna hear what "Cool" stuff people are doing with their Amigas..

[DonnyEMU]

Something that should be really clear to most people that I am not hearing people noticing on here is how Microsoft is shifting to a non processor specific architecture.

If you are following microsoft's .NET architecture (which is being implemented as MONO by the open source folks) you know that code now compiles down to a java style bytecode type system known as IL code (intermediate language code).  I would not be suprised if they like the unix world might head towards multiple processor targets (like they have done in the past with windows NT)..

I think this shift will ultimately lead to the "x86" processor or emulation of it not be as important as people are suggesting here that it is. We all know how well UAE works, I am sure cpu's are fast enough what opcodes the processor is actually using will be insignificant to compatibility.

-Don

PS I remember a small mac g4 cube that had real heating problems so bad that  we could cook an egg on it's heat vent. It was so bad that it cracked all the cases of that particular Mac. So the PC exhaust problems are not anywhere near as bad as some of the earlier Mac PPCs..