does OS4 carry a decent browser?

[DonnyEMU]

I am going to ask a question here being a web developer, and this one bugs me every time I hear someone talk about aweb or ibrowse.

I know a little about HTML, CSS, and other things like this. Considering that none of these browsers are ever up to standards, especially Javascript.

Why no one here mentions VaporWare and the Voyager web browser, which while OLD still seems to support standards better than the other two browsers that people are mentioning. It works great under emulation and seems to support Javascript, SSL, Flash (very old but it works) and has available most datatypes..

I'd love to hear some discussion about why people don't recommend it and what exactly are the problems with it. It seems to support web standards (up to about IE 4/Netscape4) better than these other two that are still in development.  Online registration for the product has stopped but it's a great product and an example of a product the community seems to have turned their back on. I'd check it out..

http://www.vapor.com/voyager/

I keep hearing BS (bologna sandwich) answers from the community about this, but I think this is still further along than the others including the OS4 products. Most people who were initially putting down voyager were upset that the browser was part of MorphOS too. If that's true, in my humble opinion they chose the better browser for their OS, and the complaints I heard weren't real ones but red vs blue banter.

Personally I am excited that webkit (the technology behind Safari and Konquerer browsers) is getting ported to AROS. That's the only hope for the entire platform these days.

http://cataclysm.cx/

http://arosshow.blogspot.com/2007/11/robert-norris-web-browser-interview.html

[DonnyEMU]

Typical Responses!

why not Voyager?

1- is a discontinued commercial product (read defunct)

2- it is not superior than IB2.4

even the MOS native version is used only by few and only because is bundled with MOS 1.4.x

Sorry but the way lay elsewhere


1) What isn't discontinued on this platform? honestly both a-web and ibrowse have both seen themsselves rise from defunctness..

2) it is not superior? Well as a web developer I look a lot specifically at implementations and it is my personal belief (which I can back up but don't want to flame here) that Voyager's EMCA-Script implementation is far superior..  If I run all three browsers simultaneously I still also get a superior rendering of a page (barring any CSS or course) with Voyager..

I could very much argue this on technical merits and completeness.. I am disappointed with what's there on all counts across the board anywhere..

and "way lay" I'd check the spelling and the meaning of that word..

[DonnyEMU]

Have you ever considered that this is actually the reason? Or can you not comprehend that your personal opinion may be disagreed with?

I totally understood that I would be disagreed with going in, that was my whole point, no one was spelling out the problems.

I myself have only ever used Voyager 3.3 under emulation (yes it was a beta download), and considering the memory available in the system I have, that's probably a reason it doesn't crashes. I do value other people's opinion and wanted to know SPECIFICALLY why it doesn't work.

I'd like to see the community use their "emcascript" implementation in another browser, and specifically I do believe it renders out better in side-by-side tests. Maybe someone could ask that company to donate their code to the other projects.. This was my only purpose for asking. It's obvious that the company's website hasn't been updated in forever..

Instability is definitely reason enough for an end-user to drop use of a product, but maybe the code that works better could still be put to use elsewhere. Considering the sad state everything is in, I think we should all make use of what's there..