Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?

[m4rk1z]

I second that. As an audiophile into a quite diverse collection of gear, I can confirm that ALL of my tapes (especially the Maxell XLII-S and MX-S tapes) perform as well as they did when I recorded them in the mid to late 80's. Even after surviving years and years in a car throughout all of the seasons. ALL of my CD recordable media from the mid 90's to mid 2000's are ALL rotting and they were all recorded on high-end dedicated CD-Audio recorders and various computer CD-ROM burners using all different types of blank media. They exhibit a jittery/scratchy/distorted sound and I had to throw away about 90% of my collections. Thankfully, I was smart and wise enough to know something "was up" with digital technology - especially one that relies on spinning a plastic disc with pits of dye at ridiculous speeds and kept most all of whatever format I was hoping to "back up".

I've had bad luck with HD's, CF cards, SD cards and pretty much any of these solid state mass storage devices. Whereas my reel-to-reel tapes, old cassette tapes for a TI-99/4A, VHS tapes, and analogue audio cassette tapes keep on keeping on.

Digital sucks for audio and most of the world has been duped into thinking otherwise. If people weren't so lazy and enjoyed the convenience that digital media offers, maybe they'd learn to listen better and trust their ears.

You are completely right about this "Digital sucks for audio and most of the world has been duped into thinking otherwise."
I trashed milions of cd-s and nowday allmost all of my DVD movie discs are also lost - they wont work anymore (my VHS/BETA video movie collection still works great) but there are so much HD movies out there now and we all have fast internet connections today so it's no problem!
;p

I also have a great TAPE collection that works fine as then and i also record LP's making compilations for listening at home...  i m also a audiophile using all the best of '80 stuff like nakamichi, mcintosh, tannoy and vinyls for audio

My amiga 060 could only run shity MP3 (bljak) files in mono with "good"
quality and the one here that wrote "his friend could not hear the difference between mp3 and mp3" hahahaha must go to the doctor b/c i can hear difference between same audio CD's made from different audio companys!!! Normal people can HEAR differences if he JUST changes the audio cables in his system!
486 Pc's could only run stereo mp3 (128bit) at o/c speeds at 150/166Mhz.
:laughing:
that's why i did NOT use amiga for mp3, (i did only used mp3 files for my car b/c they was no good tape radios on the market) but you CAN use amigas for playing audio cd - that's not soo
bad depending at your home sound system!

cya...

[m4rk1z]

@ graffias79 & save2600:

Let's make it clear what we're talking here, guys. I'm not defending optical media (or anything else used for recording digital information) versus tapes. I'm talking about the principle of storing information as such - digital vs analog. Considering that I can make unlimited number of lossless copies of any digital content there can be NO doubt that it WILL last longer or at least has the potential to. When my tape dies, it's gone - I can make a copy, but it will be lossy and how many of those can I make while maintaining decent quality?

As for digital or analog being suitable for storing audio information, well, we all know CD limitations, but today with digital content distribution we are no longer limited to 16bit/44KHz. Now I don't know if SACD or DVDA or even higher rez formats sound better than good vinyl, but it is comparable at least. I have both a decent vinyl rig and SACD player and like both. Still I maintain that the biggest difference is always in the recording itself and its mastering - a well done redbook CD can sound miles better than a shitty LP.

Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
YES with a sound card!
:laughing:

@koshman
"a well done redbook CD can sound miles better than a shitty LP."
YES it can today in the year 2010 and it cost at least 4000-5000 euros for a great and/or modified player, under that price tag NOTHING can beat
those shitty LP's as you say!
:roflmao:

[m4rk1z]

Actually, in the astute audio world, it's well known you can invest in a much cheaper analogue rig and get much more satisfaction out of it than digital spent many times over. $350 for that new budget Rega is enough to blow away ANY digital player I've heard that cost less than $10k. Probably any digital rig at any cost. The two formats simply cannot sound like each other no matter how much money you spend. And yes, I currently have both SACD and DVD-Audio capable players. I like them for what they are (especially 2-channel SACD), but I'm talking in the area of imaging, realism. liquidity, smoothness & frequency response. No comparison to vinyl and the imaging especially is never right in the digital domain. If you have revealing enough speakers, you will find that the bulk of musical information in a stereo recording is squished and mono-like in the digital domain, whereas analogue allows the instruments to float beside, under, above and beyond your speakers.

AND... make no mistake about other formats that have come and gone. DCC for example. That's directly recording 1's and 0's to cassette and was, therefore, a true digital medium. So was the Adam tape drive technology from the 80's IIRC, that digitally recorded data to an analogue tape (metal formulated usually). And then there were a few VHS decks that had the ability to use their video heads, modulated in such a way as to record digital audio. Speaking of that, was the very short lived D-VHS medium (all digital of course)! All of these were superior technologies that went by the wayside partly because of the confusion the industries cast upon the general public during these ever continually volatile digital times. Nobody agreeing on standards and I also firmly believe they were quickly discarded because they are so long lasting. Every industry today wants you to re-purchase their goods. Over and over and over again. Anything that represents longevity must be cast out, else how are these greedy bastards going to continue to line their pockets for "innovation" or not? And that's what it's all about.

What we need and what I desire is a modern tape drive system one a consumer level with near-consumer replaceable parts (capstans, pinch rollers, belts) based on either compact cassette OR reel-to-reel so we can properly store our data or music - just like the big boys *still* do. What the Joe Sixpack consumer is sold today, is by and large, garbage designed to be obsolete as soon as you take it right out of the packaging. It's seriously flawed, sounds like crap, doesn't retain data for any real length of time and is essentially stripping people of the passion we once had for music, photography, gaming or whatever.  

Take the photography industry for example. Who hasn't lost valuable pics yet thanks to the flaws inherent in digital storage? You can't accidentally "delete" a negative the same way. Not to mention all the pics that are purposely being discarded because, all of the sudden, everybody is an "expert" photographer and critic. Psychology behind this phenomenon isn't rocket science, but seems again - most people would rather not recognize or deal with it. At the expense of quality, it's simply too much fun snapping cheesy pics off your phone camera, listening to mp3's on a seriously small wafer and all the other silly things people get a kick out of today. The world is just rife with cheese I guess.  :lol:

, yikes! Didn't mean to get so off topic... to remain on-topic, I would say that listening to a horrible format (mp3) on an Amiga is a futile exercise to say the least. Yes, it may be fun to play around with and experiment (did it myself) as that's always what it's been about classic computing wise, but to sit - even casually listen to music in the background like that, with horrible fidelity... your Amiga is better equipped performing some other worthwhile task. lol  May as well just play a CD back using a SCSI CD drive for superior results. I spent $60 on an external USB soundcard for my 060/Deneb equipped Miggy and was still disappointed in the performance of both the audio AND the "multi-tasking" ability of the Amiga.

Anyone want to buy a SoundBlaster X-Fi that's like new in the box? $40 shipped within the U.S.  

Man! I m so happy that someone really knows what he is talking about, so i m not the only one here who thinks MP3 is music (sound) without soul!
:laughing:
Greatly explained about sound coming from 2 speakers making sound in the room like you where at the hall, not mentioning that you can also hear individual musicans sitting nearer or deeper back or at a different height!
;p
save2.6 have you ever tried to record music at VHS or better BETAmax?
I compared them against many cd players and the result was fascinating good!!! I also made some video backup systems to backup all my amiga stuff/discs to vhs tape also (on good high grade ones) for archiving them.
Yes they all work today like many many C-64 tapes that are older more than 20 years and works also very well, i made some copy units for making exact copys of tapes to have them just in case...

Sorry for OT people!