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The Extreme answer:
You should kill yourself.  It's the only way you're going to get away from them.


The more logical answer:
You should grow up and quit trying to make other people's business your own.


Either of the two above would be recommended by me.

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Maybe I'm an old fart, but when someone gives me a limp handshake, it feels like I've been goosed. Gays with firm handshakes don't bother me at all.


I'm with you here.  Crushing handshakes are obnoxious and rude, and limp handshakes leave me feeling like I've just touched something slimey.

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I forgot to mention that they're at this college also. :-(


They also exist in small towns but they pretend to be straight so they wont get beat up. Then they marry women (that would otherwise be available to marry a straight guy) so that they "fit in" and don't seem gay.

Tragic really, but also somewhat amusing.


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Actually I don't understand why they do that.

Peer pressure? to FIT IN? please.

Would you pretend to be gay and renounce women if it meant you'd fit in, in a gay world? I wouldn't, I'd continue to indulge, conformity be damned! I'd rather be a black sheep that get's laid [by the attracted-to sex] than the white sheep. Who'd fake it? Would you sleep with another guy to be more popular in school/work/society? I wouldn't, and couldn't for that matter, short of holding a gun to my head, and even then I don't know!  :-P

I don't understand it.



A lot of people hide and try to pose their way into the straight world out of fear.  Fear of going to hell (<--this is a HUGE one for many), fear of being disowned(often by ENTIRE family), fear of being assaulted, abused or killed, fear of being rejected by society and evicted from the opportunity of leading a successful and happy life, fear of living a life that is "immoral" or "wrong", fear of being a bad person, the list goes on and on.

You have to remember that in MOST of the US, people are raised being told that to be gay is wrong, God hates you, you're going to hell, you're single-handedly going to destroy society, you're a threat to everyone's children, you're family will hate you, you don't deserve to be loved, and you should be beaten to death...all because you're a guy who happens to be attracted to other guys...it's really stupid, but when people grow up in places like this, if they are gay, they will traditionally do everything in their power to hide it.  Then you get the power-conservative psycho's who are gay too, people like Roy Cohn for example...admitting his homosexulaity would have ruined everything he had built for himself out of his own hate-mongering.

Many people in this world, especially if they come from small religious towns, aren't raised with the strength to be defiant...and for every person that came out due to he Matthew Shepard incident, there are two more who went much deeper into the closet instead.

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Re: Should I have to respect men who want to have sex with chickens? :P
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2004, 03:22:23 AM »
Hey guys...I'm really tired of reading the idea on here that homosexuality needs to be "treated" in some way in order to get rid of it.  

Either by discussing it as a potential "abnormality", or suggesting that homosexual acts on the other end of the country might somehow in some wierd magical-mystical-pseudo-psycho-abstract way change the relationship someone else has with his/her wife/husband.  

Most of the anti-gay comments on here sooner or later start sounding a lot like five year-olds complaining because someone else was looking at them.

Homosexuality, whether genetic or socially adopted makes no difference.  People will try to argue that if it's not genetic then it is a choice, but I personally can't identify exactly when I start "choosing" to find certain people attractive over others, and I'm surprised that some straight people are so amazingly gifted as to be able to choose all their feelings and reactions and urges...I however, do not possess such gifts, if I did, I certainly would never hurt again.

It's not like gay men are continually fighting their urges to go have sex with women every day in order to get it on with guys!

It doesn't matter what studies can prove or disprove regarding homosexuality BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVER GOING TO GO AWAY.  You're either going to have to get on the boat and deal with your insecurities and adolescent bigotry, or you're going to have to move to antarctica, but I really suggest you don't have children while you're there because sooner or later, one of them will turn up gay, and then you'll have spoiled that too.

Homosexuals are born by Heterosexual parents, they come from all walks of life, and are prevalent throughout ALL of history IN EVERY CONTINENT, and in EVERY CULTURE(although historically speaking, most are what we would now refer to as bisexual)

So please, stop talking of it as an error that needs to be fixed as though what I do somehow has any impact on you, whom I've never even met in person, and don't even live in the same city as (several of you I'm not even on the same continent).  

Your assumption that everyone on this planet must be like you or is inferior and faulty and destructive to society is pure hubris, highly derogatory, and thoroughly offensive.  I am a good person, I have strong beliefs in who I am, and what I want, and a strong value system regarding what I feel is right and wrong, and what I do romatically is none of your damn business, and will never hurt you in any way.

How I file my taxes will never hurt you, my receiving inheritance from a deceased loved one will never hurt you, my ability to visit a loved one in the hospital will never hurt you.  I do what I can just like everyone else in this world to get by with a modicum of self-respect and integrity, and you have no right to tell me that my choice to love another human being is invalid, and should be denied to me.

You're of course, perfectly welcome to not understand it.  If you're heterosexual, homosexuality SHOULD be foreign to you, But condemning it as "wrong", "abnormal", "destructive", or any of the other foolishly judgemental labels thrown at it is just dumb.  Primarily because the people attacking it so harshly ADMIT UPFRONT that it's something they don't understand!  If you don't understand it then how on earth can you be qualified to judge those involved?

At the same time, I understand being afraid of something different, I understand being more interested in "being right" than admitting you might be an ass, we all have that problem, it's a human wiring thing, and because I understand these things, and do them myself from time to time, I have nothing but love for you, what do you have for me?



P.S.  I once again request that people refrain from using the word "fag" on this board as it is a word that has its roots in the notion that homosexuals should be burned to death, and it is HIGHLY offensive and derogatory.
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