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Re: Why artist consider the human body an art?
« on: August 13, 2004, 03:31:58 PM »
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Hum,
intersting, so the `mona lisa` is just a bit of canvas with some paint on it...
The real art was the sitter...?


I have yet to meet a visual artist who thinks even remotely highly of the Mona Lisa from an "artistic" standpoint, excepting those that believe that it's actually a self portrait by Da Vinci.  

It's important mainly because of its usage of technique (Sfumato and Chiaroscuro specifically) and the fact that she's smiling and no-one knows for certain who she is(oooh big mystery)  :-o   :-P






"now this is a nice looking painting of a broad on a couch"
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Re: Why artist consider the human body an art?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2004, 03:36:26 PM »
I can't see anything wrong with using sculpture, paint, or any other medium to express the beauty(or lackthereof) one may find in the human body.
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Re: Why artist consider the human body an art?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2004, 03:45:18 PM »
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These days art is more often about this shock value. It's a sham, controlled by a few very rich pretentious morons whose whole life experience can be summed up in the word 'valium'. They ran out of ideas a long time ago and can only try to grab an audience by using the worst taste possible.


From the renaissance and onward a large portion of art has always been about shock value, the whole point of 'Art' is communication, and it is often used to challenge people's sense of self, decency, morality, philosophy, politics, and anything else.  It is important that it be protected even if you find it stupid, insulting, degrading, pandering, and pathetic.  

There will always be a large quotient of schlock-art following the two or three people that are really doing something inventive and serious with their medium, and you will find people who are interested in making art even in pornography if you look hard enough (I used to work at a porn store).  

The hope is that the people who are just interested in pandering for cash will fall by the wayside over time, which usually does happen as their work is simply not memorable.
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Re: Why artist consider the human body an art?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2004, 03:48:50 PM »
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It got me wondering.
Mona Lisa really did look very alike Leo himself. Did he ever get any daughters? That could explain a few things.
I mean, Mona Lisa wasn't a rich woman. IIRC, she is belived to have been a servant for some nobles in Florens. Maybe old Leo couldn't keep control of his lil' David.


He was a meticulous bookkeeper when it came to his work yet there are no records of the sittings for the painting, and the painting is unsigned.

from Da Vinci Morph
 "Dr. Lillian Schwartz of Bell Labs suggests that Leonardo painted himself, and was able to support her theory by analyzing the facial features of Leonardo's face and that of the famous painting, She digitized both the self-portrait of the artist and the Mona Lisa.  She flipped the self portrait and merged the two images together using a computer.  She noticed the features of the face aligned perfectly!  You may draw your own conclusion."
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Re: Why artist consider the human body an art?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 05:48:05 PM »
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It was in Da Vinci's head. His technique is important to this concrete impression of his vision, but even with his skill what made it to the canvas could never have lived up to his ideas.


This is pretty well supported by the whole 'never got her nose right' thing.   :lol:
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