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Offline Jope

Re: Question about the Amiga Fast File System
« on: March 22, 2004, 12:35:33 PM »
Just to recap:

Hard disk: you install FFS into the MBR and it then works with just about any OS as long as the controller understands RDB. It may be that if you use the FFS from 3.1, it'll crash under 1.3, so if you have a disk you intend to use with both OSes, try it first and if it doesn't work, then install the 1.3 FFS onto the RDB.. (you lose international mode and don't even think of using over 4GB disks/2GB partitions with the 1.3 FFS)

Floppy disk: OSes from 2.0 forwards know FFS floppies without any tricks, but with 1.3 you need to create and mount a separate device to be able to read FFS (and also no booting from FFS floppies).

It's rather simple - take a look at your devs:mountlist when you've booted to wb1.3, there's a device called DF1: and a device called FAST: .. make a new device called FF0:, and combine the DF1: stuff (change unit to 0!), and get dostype and filesystem from FAST:  .. then do a mount ff0: in a cli and you can use ffs disks in drive df0: (they show up inside the device ff0:)

Don't be alarmed by the above instructions, you'll understand it the minute you look at the mountlist..

Perhaps you need to issue a diskchange ff0: after you swap disks, I'm not sure as I haven't played around with 1.3 for ages.. And I'm too lazy to try it now. I'll leave some joy of discovery to you.
 

Offline Jope

Re: Question about the Amiga Fast File System
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2004, 01:07:37 PM »
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xeron wrote:
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Jope wrote:
Hard disk: you install FFS into the MBR


Amigas don't use master boot records...



Haha that's what you get for talking PC and Amiga at the same time in different places.. :-)

Thanks for pointing that out, I seriously didn't notice.
 

Offline Jope

Re: Question about the Amiga Fast File System
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2004, 11:06:31 AM »
The quote is partially incorrect.

If the HD controller fully supports the RDB standard, it loads the FastFileSystem from the RDB and is ready to go, happily booting from FFS partitions under 1.3.

However, if the controller doesn't do RDB (and there are many examples of this), there's only the OFS in the ROM and thus it can't understand the FFS boot partition.

For example the A2090 doesn't have RDB support, it uses a totally different scheme and there the boot partition must be OFS under Kickstart 1.x.

There are also some cards that support putting FFS into the RDB, but nothing else.. An old Supra WordSync comes to mind.. I could install PFS3 into the RDB, but the devices never came visible. With FFS everything worked like a charm.

Someone please tell me why there is so much partial / misleading information floating around about Amigas?