without starting any wars, I belive it has.
the reason why this all became a problem was A.inc ip that caused the question about legality of the Umilator/Amithlon.
H&P called the bluff on A.inc and Bernie got stuck in the middle. Had A.inc wanted to make a deal with H&P they could have, and by that enabeling the validity of the Umilator. feel free to repost.