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Re: Amiga and CELL - What you think about
« on: April 28, 2006, 07:07:34 PM »
The reason it is taking so long for Sony to write an OS for it is that (based on what I've heard on OSNews and other sources) the Cell OS will run from an SPE thus freeing up the PPE to run the applications.  If AmigaOS runs from the PPE and then adds SPE support via a .resource entry we'd be in business.

The real problem is that the PPE is 64-bit using the same instruction set as the PPC 970MP.  Since the 970MP isn't supported yet it will take time to add 64-bit support and SMP support that it requires first before AmigaOS can support the Cell processor.
 

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Re: Amiga and CELL - What you think about
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2006, 05:02:19 PM »
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I don't think cell's are a good solution. Too expensive, too radical and completely unnecessary.   Seriously an OS as lean and mean as Amigo OS should run so damned fast on a standard 2GHz machine!  How fast did the A500 run again? ;-)


How standard a 2GHz system are we talking about.  One that comes with Windows preinstalled?  Why not just ask Amiga to GIVE AmigaOS to Microsoft since all major preassembled brands of PCs pay OEM licence fees to them.

OEM and standard licencing are an important way to keep Microsoft from taking over any MORE of the industry than they already have.

BTW there is a 1.7 GHz G4 accelerator announced from ACK Software Controls for the AmigaOne XT and MicroA1-c and yes AmigaOS does fly on them.  If they were available to everyone it would be good for Amiga but they simply aren't.

The A500 ran at 7 MHz and came with a buggy version of Workbench 1.3.  WB 2+ came out and most of the Amiga software wouldn't run on the enhanced chipset because people were so used to bypassing the OS that by the time WB 3+ came out nobody cared about the OS they just wanted to bang on the chipset.  What's left for people who bypassed the OS?  Nothing.

The Cell is expensive primarily becuase of the large die size and because it runs on RamBus memory.  But seriously, if people are willing to pay $750 for a 1.7 GHz G4 processor then what will be the difference if people buy a PS3 instead?  Sure OEM licencing will go to Sony but they're taking a loss.  I think moving to the Cell is a good idea becuase the instruction set of the SPEs are designed not to need to change so only the PPE needs to improve.