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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« on: November 17, 2002, 09:27:52 PM »
Firstly lets look at the spelling:

M O S

A O S

Similarities:
They are both Operating Systems ( O S are both positioned the same)

Differences:

A & M are 13 characters apart, and mean completely different words.

A - Amiga
M - Morph



Now for the binary examination:

OS4.0 binary is incompatible to MOS x.x binary
OS3.1 binary is *emulated* 100% on MOS
OS3.1 binary is part emulated, part native on AOS4

Elaboration on 3.1 usage - 3.1 software runs faster on AOS4 than MOS x.x and migrates easier thanks to the fact that you can combine the two code bases.

Statement:  MOS is NOT AOS.  Because an OS can emulate another OS does not mean it deserves respect.  Otherwise you would see amigans licking posters of Billy the Goat.  AOS runs the full roadmap more directly than MOS ever will.

The most l33t of programmers are going the AOS way.  

And here in NZ, we are setting up financial endorsements for programmers to go AOS.

Thank you for your time.
 

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2002, 03:48:27 AM »
Some of it was jokish and the rest fact.
 

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2002, 05:51:21 PM »
Firstly, the ABOX is an amiga emulation layer.  Because MOS is not AOS, the only way it can run 3.1 stuff is via this ABOX layer.  Secondly, AOS is 100% PPC - you obviously haven't been paying much attention to the progress reports.

MOS DOES emulate AOS, it IS NOT like AROS and so there is no API compatibility - I wish you wouldn't post such blatant BS.  MOS is MOS, not AOS - if the API was the same this wouldnt be so.

Like I said, l33t programmers are going OS4 way - not your dead end virus makers.

And this little story you have about trying to give a future is even more BS.


And no, I have OS4 sitting here so dont say the MOS is the only PPC OS.
 

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2002, 09:42:29 PM »
So now you're using figure names to solidify the BS?

Get Ben to email me - and tell me OS4 wont be 100% PPC then I'll accept it.  Until then I'll just look at what is in front of me which is an AmigaOS version recoded in pure C, ready for compilation.  It is version 4.0.

I see this going to a debate over what is the OS and what is not as you admit the core parts will be PPC.

 You noddy - the OS is THE core part.

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You don't know the difference between an emulator and a binary-compatible API-reimplementation

Lets see:

Emulation of Processor =
Emulation of API =

MOS is not AOS kernel but Quark.  Therefore the API is different.  This dictates naturally then the AOS 3.1 ability is an API emulation.  3.1 binary happens to be 68k which also naturally dictates that it emulates the processor.  At either point it is emulation.  There is no API reimplementation, MOS does nothing the same as AOS beyond this implementation.  There is no crossing of the paths as you would suggest.

And yes I do know MOS used AROS modules, but as you say on source code level, so it is modified for the relevant API.  You are creating a hole for yourself by giving me the text to target.
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So tell me if you really got a working copy of AOS4, why is it that then Ben could only demonstrate a highly patched/updated AOS3.x (on 68k) and a text-mode kernel ?


ATM the OS4.0 exists as a 68k modular distribution.  It is not a patch, the way it works is that all the files are replaced that aren't in ROM, and the ROM is disected and renewed much like Blizkick.  No patching, all replacing.

It is in C, and the recompilation takes no time at all.  In the latter stages of low-level HAL implementation we shift to PowerPC.

The reason why the amigaONE was only shown with the text based ExecSG was written in the latest progress report - so why use that as a false example?
 

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2002, 01:22:16 AM »
MOS can only run OS 3.x 68k Binary,
the fact that MOS is Quark based and runs on PowerPC means that it is pure emulation through and through.



Your idea of calling ROM replacement a patch is, quite simply - your idea!  And by that logic I'm patching my system whenever I change my wallpaper, swap an MP3 for a higher quality one, etc.

Patching, is to repair/replace a part of a whole.  When you replace entire libraries you ARE NOT patching you are upgrading/updating.


And you can kiss my arss with your personal attacks.  You are obviously scum to go that low.