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Re: FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!
« Reply #59 from previous page: October 12, 2016, 01:00:20 PM »
Please delete whole topic now. Why did I not find a moderator? How is it possible to find it
My product interested nobody sincerely. I was laughed at, I was teased, I advertise it expensively according to them. This is not true. They made a fun of the topic. The topic was meaningless, it is necessary to delete it because of this.
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I wanted to sell a rare turbocard only. I looked for 1 customer only. Irrelevant what I want to sell the card for. I proved 2 times (original ACA1232-50 MHz price was 300 Euro, ebay B1230 250-350 Euro, that I advertised it on a real price. You do not tell me what I have to do. I did not open the topic that everybody should write nonsenses to me because of that.
You did everything in order to hinder me. It is not obligatory to buy it from me. If something does not like, do not write to me.
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I don't care what you believe about me. Keep your opinion in yourself. The end.
 

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Quote from: kolla;815192
What I don't understand is... since your modified ACA card is so much better than the Blizzard 1230 card you have, why don't you keep it and sell the Blizzard 1230 card instead?

Not that's the problem, but what the men do here. They do not want from me to shop, to pester me only. I sold B1230, ACA1221.
 

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pyrre: RARE! The  original ACA1232 50 MHz card was available in November-December 2015.  only, was limited edition, 10-15 pieces, all sold (300 €). This will  never be produced already. ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro! Dhrystones 9203 only. My 1232 11408.

paul1981: Why? What is amibay? This is not the most important retro site on the world. The amibay prices are not authoritative. There are cheap and expensive products everywhere. My 250 Euro price too cheap. Real price min. 300 Euro.

Faerytale: The topic lasts until somebody does not buy it.
 

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Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;815229
You can buy a brand-new 40MHz ACA card on Amigakit for $215 USD.  That works out to about 195 EUR. Just checked it today. For someone who's so interested in nickel-and-diming the price of an item, you should at least check your numbers before posting them.

ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/aca1232_1220_cpu/68030.40+/product/ACA12xx.html#filter=*
Amigakit 240 Euro, or 280 USD, or 191 GBP. http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1285
ACA1233n 26 MHz 170 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/ACA12xx.html?aca1232_1220_cpu=68030.26#filter=*
ACA1233 55 MHz 360 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/aca1232_1220_cpu/68030.55+/product/ACA12xx.html#filter=*
My 1232 50 MHz 250 Euro brutal cheap.
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Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;815241
Omg dude.  Nobody buys from icomp.de.  They buy from a reseller, AmigaKit is just one example.  Do you not know anything about buying and selling, and list prices?  I just can't even.  Throwing up my hands in your general direction at this absurdity. :evil:

Some screenshots:

Icomp = manufacturer.
I look on amigakit 1233n-40 prices. The 215 USD error in USA store.
European store 240 Euro, Canadian store 280 USD, UK store 191 GBP.
All prices have to be alike in 1 shop. 240 Euro = 280 USD = 191 GBP. 215 USD impossible.
If 1233n 240 Euro, then my 1232 50 MHz cheap 300 Euro. 250 Euro super cheap.
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Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;815250
*of course it is*  Riiiight.  All of these websites are wrong, and full of lies.  It's all a giant conspiracy with the sole intention of preventing you from selling your one hacked up board.  :lol:

Would you like a tinfoil hat to go along with your conspiracy theories?


My 1232 real price min. 300-350 Euro. 250 Euro cheap.
Why do you write to me, if you do not want to shop? Why do you not deal with other things? You pester me vainly, you're wrong. The retro things prices rise. You may do nothing against the price rise. The prices do not conform to you. Be shopping somewhere else, if my product is too expensive.
 

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Horror = impossible to sell a cheap, rare turbocard, will  never be produced already.
Be ashamed of yourselves.
 

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Quote from: paul1981;815307
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232#50MHz_limited_edition

Does your card have the new SD-Ram controller? If not, then you can not pass it off as one of those rare 50MHz versions that were available from November 2015. I'm just being honest here, this is not an attack upon you, but I don't think it's fair to try and pass your card off as one of those rare versions, people need to know exactly what they are buying.

Noooo. Original made in 2015 50 MHz ACA1232 RAM controller work on 50 MHz, oscillator 50 MHz. CPU work on 50 MHz.
All ACA1232 20, 25, 30, 33, 40 MHz card PCB same. The difference CPU freq (in 33 MHz card are 33 MHz CPU), and R1-4 resistors only. But original 1232 50 MHz RAM controller different. Original 1232 25 MHz card freq. multiplier resistor R2 (RAM 50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz), original 50 MHz card R2 (RAM 50 MHz, CPU 50 MHz).

My 1232 RAM clock 100 MHz, look this topic message 1:
R1-4 switch configuration, original not modified oscillator 20 MHz, multiplication, not divide.
All off, RAM 2× =  40 MHz, CPU 20 MHz.
R2 on, RAM 2,5× =  50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz.
R3 on, RAM 3× = 60 MHz, CPU 30 MHz.
R1 on, RAM 3,33× = 66 MHz, CPU 33 MHz.
R2+4 on, RAM 4× = 80 MHz, CPU 40 MHz.
R1+4 on, RAM 5× = 100 MHz, CPU 50 MHz.
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Never try!
R2+3 on, RAM 6× = 120 MHz, CPU 60 MHz. Never try!
R1+3 on, RAM 8× = 160 Mhz, CPU 80 MHz. Never try!
Never try other 7 combinations (R1+2 on, etc.)!

Look: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232#ACA_12xx_Benchmarks
Original 50 MHz 1232 dhrystones 10576, my 1232 11478. The reason of the difference RAM speed!

The ACA1233 55 MHz oscillator 55,55 Mhz, RAM and CPU work on 55 MHz.
ACA1233 40 MHz oscillator 80 MHz, RAM work on 80 MHz, CPU work on 40 MHz. Divide 1/2 = RAM controller, not resistors!
New 1233n 26 and 40 MHz oscillators 80 MHz. At both version RAM work on 80 MHz, CPU work on 80/2=40 MHz, or 80/3=26 MHz. Simple.
Divide 1/2, or 1/3 = RAM controller, not resistors!

There was need for a new RAM controller (ACA1233-55, and 1232-50), because the RAM chips are not work on 105-110 MHz. (ACA1233-55 CPU freq. 55 MHz, RAM freq. 110 MHz, this not work.)
100 MHz are big loads already (1232-50). They (icomp) did not want to use the RAM chips on approximately 95% load.
ACA card RAM chips: EM63A165TS-6G. http://www.etron.com/manager/uploads/EM63A165TS_v1.4.pdf
166 MHz Fully synchronous operation.
100-110 MHz why not OK?
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Not stable, start disk pic OK, but boot = guru.

They used new RAM controller for the 1232-50, if a new controller was needed for the 1233-55.
1233-55 limited edition: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1233#55.55_MHz_limited_edition
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Gizmo350: ACA1233n-40 not better, than my 1232. The aim of the developments the price increase. Many little not important new functions = higher price.
In 2012 1232-40 was 185 Euro, dhrystones 9045.
In 2015 1233-40 was 200 Euro, dhrystones 9045.
In 2016 1233n-40 normal price 240 Euro, dhrystones 9203.

The average user senses nothing of the ACA 030 40 MHz card developments. The speed increment is minimal from 1232-40 to 1233n-40. The speed and functions of my card will be suitable in 2016-2020. My 1232 faster, than original 1232-50, and new 1233n.
The new 1233n software pack (ACAtune not usable, obsolete) not finished, not usable 100%. Hehe.
68882 FPU install to 1233 and 1233n not recommended. Instability, etc.
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Quote from: paul1981;815366
So your card is different then to the original and rare 1232 50 MHz  edition. Yours has faster RAM access due to older SD-Ram controller.  That makes your card more desirable in my opinion, providing it's 100%  stable like you say so. You can't attach an FPU to it though like  1233/1233n unfortunately.

My card stable on 50 MHz. FPU unnecessary (some program use only). Why you deal with the negative things? There are many positive things. Look: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=815313&postcount=179
 

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250 Euro.
 

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Quote from: klx300r;815450
@ Blizzard 128 MB

I wish you good luck again on selling your card but perhaps you should consider advertising some where else for obvious reasons

Where is it possible to advertise yet? EAB and amibay not OK.
 

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Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;815500
Try craigslist, or whatever your local equivalent of the want ads is.

Maybe you shouldn't have burned your bridges on those other sites, probably would've sold this board months ago.  :lol:

Doesn't matter what I make, if nobody is shopping because of that only from me, because I advertise it. Nobody can understand it, what kind of distinguished product I advertise cheaply. If the seller is more important, than the product, I use the card. Everybody ridiculous, who pesters me here. Buy a slow card expensively.:roflmao::laugh1::biglaugh:
 

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250 Euro.