FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!!

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ACA 1232 50 MHz, upgraded from 33 MHz to 50 MHz.
33 MHz CPU removed, installed socket, and 50 MHz MC68030RC50C CPU.
Mini DIP switch installed into R1-R4.
Selectable 20, 25, 30, 33, 40, 50 MHz CPU freq..
Totally tested with A1200. 50 MHz mode stable, I tested with games, demos.
4 pics original 33 MHz condition.

R1-4 switch configuration, original not modified oscillator 20 MHz.
All off, RAM 2× =  40 MHz, CPU 20 MHz.
R2 on, RAM 2,5× =  50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz.
R3 on, RAM 3× = 60 MHz, CPU 30 MHz.
R1 on, RAM 3,33× = 66 MHz, CPU 33 MHz.
R2+4 on, RAM 4× = 80 MHz, CPU 40 MHz.
R1+4 on, RAM 5× = 100 MHz, CPU 50 MHz.
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Never try!
R2+3 on, RAM 6× = 120 MHz, CPU 60 MHz. Never try!
R1+3 on, RAM 8× = 160 Mhz, CPU 80 MHz. Never try!
Never try other 7 combinations (R1+2 on, etc.)!

With 50 MHz CPU 300 Euro, with 33 MHz CPU 250 Euro + shipping.

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After the modification.

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50 MHz mode.

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40, 33,3, 30, 25, 20 MHz mode.

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315 Euro.

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Not too expensive. Original 50 MHz version ACA1232 was 2015. nov-2016. jan. (not available) 300 Euro with soldered CPU. http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232
Lot work CPU desoldering, socket soldering, 20-50 MHz testing, etc.
ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro, expensive, FPU not supported.

Vampire on the horizon??? Haha.
The Vampire A600: http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/orders/index.php
"742 people wanting to be vampirized !"
The production of the Vampyre 600, primitive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDZnrWYYjY
Vampire A600 and 500 a emulated 68000 CPU in FPGA only. Not finished product.
Vampire A500 available min. in 2017-2018.
Vampire A1200 available min. in 2019-2020.

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With CPU 310 Euro, without CPU 260 Euro.

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To jack-3d:
Blizzard 1230 cards made in 1994-1995, obsolete. Repair not easy. 128 MB RAM modules extreme expensive (Amibay 35 Euro!), why??? Real price 5 Euro. Dhrystone 8500-9000. CPU on 50 MHz hot.
ACA1232 made in 2012, repair easy, installed 128 MB RAM. Dhrystone 11478. FPU not possible, unnecessary, the Amiga programs 98% do not use the FPU. CPU on 50 MHz NOT hot. 1233-55 360 Euro (dhrystone 11747), minimal faster, than my 1232. CPU NOT socketed! This important!

To Iggy: Thanks.

To Chrom00: The developments progress into a bad direction. The 68000-68060 CPUs is available always yet. The FPGA cards (Vampire) is unnecessary.
Why did nobody build a modern new 68060 card yet???
The old Blizzard, Apollo 1260 cards made in 1996-98, min. 600 Euro. Why?

To Paul1981: I don't understand what are you talking about. 310 Euro with CPU, 260 Euro without CPU. The CPU+shipping min. 50 Euro from China, the 50 MHz 68030 the most expensive version, this is faster version!
The ACA 1233 cards too expensive. ACA1232 40 MHz in 2012 was 185 Euro, ACA1232 50 MHz in 2015 was 300 Euro, ACA1233 40 MHz in 2014 was 200 Euro, ACA1233n 40 MHz now 240 Euro. Why? 1233 and 1233n FPU not supported.
The best ACA card now the 1232-50.
The ACA1232-50 card will never be available. I prepared one, this rare!

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Jens will not produce 68040, or 68060 card. This would demand a big investment. About 40000 Euro for development of the first working  68060 prototype card, and at least 800 CPUs for a mass-production. We're easily  talking 600000 Euro investment here.
The new ACA 68060 50-100 MHz card would not be cheaper at the old B1260, Apollo 1260 cards, min. 600 Euro.

The last rev. 6 version 68060 50 MHz 71E41J (usable to 100 MHz) CPU 100-130 Euro. Why? Real price 20 Euro, made in 1997-2000(?).
New PPC card? Nothing. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/blizzardppc

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To Cosmos. Jens purchased right 1000% true?
Jens why does not produce 68060 cards to A600, A1200, A3000, A4000?
Jens why produces cheaper 68000-68030 cards only?
68060 71E41J in 2009-2011 was 25-30 Euro. Now why 120 Euro?
Jens may not use the old 68060 card informations, to modernize is needed for the current components. The new ACA1232, 1233 cards hardware and firmware not = old B1230, etc. cards hardware and firmware.

Why do you say that?

His strategy is to  reduce the Amiga to a retro game machine only, another form of  destruction : we can do nothing serious today with these low  frequencies...
He is FULLY AWARE of what he did these last ACA years, no excuse... Playing stupid won't work with me !

Min. 80% of the old turbocards went wrong already.
Onto the modern ACA  cards big the demand. They sell the ACA cards expensively even now.  ACA500 new price was 90 Euro, now 200-300 Euro. (Was 11. Sep. 2016. 268 Euro on ebay).
Jens fulfils the demand only.

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Considering that ACA cards has same desing flaws than Apollo cards has, need for timing fixes, etc, I wouldn't be surpireced if ACA cars are actually Apollo cards. Jens however bought that desings years ago.

68030 is not a fast, it is bog slow. Anything below 68040 is painfull to use.

Most of 68040/60 targeted apps and games uses heavily FPU. Making 68040/60 accelerator without FPU is pointless.

My ACA1232 on 20-50 MHz 100% work with my A1200 with E123C and E125C capacitors. The manufacturer not installed E121C and E122C.
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232

I am not shopping expensive 20 years old 68060 cards. My loss will be big, if goes wrong. 600 Euro unreal in 2016. If max. 350 Euro, OK.

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Please forget about Jens and his strategy of production. Its his way, he always sold out his ACAs, so people obviously buy his products and its win-win situation.

I personally dont buy ACAs because I am fully satisfied with phase5 products.

I still dont get the point of 1-3 MIPS difference between various 030 accelerators. Simply if I have 030 with 9,5 MIPS all classic games work just fine. Then tell me WHY do I need 030 with 12 MIPS?

=> classic games (WHDLOAD) will work the same
=> FPS and 3D games will be slow the same

Even when you could overclock 030 to 100 MHz (of course I know this is not possible) you get something about 20 MIPS => which is the power of 040/30 MHz

I have Blizzard 1230 50 MHz, and ACA1232-50. I see the difference.
The 2. fastest card is my 1232-50.
Nobody will never produce new 68040, 68060 card.
My 1232 for long time will be rare.
Buying a 68060 card will be impossible already in 2020-2030.
My 1232 card will work yet.
The big part of the demos, games works well with the 68030/50 card without FPU.
What can you do with the 68060/50 card (with FPU), which you cannot make with the 68030/50 card?

The performance is not proportional to the sysinfo dhrystones directly.
B1230/50 9000 dhrystones, B1260 37000 dhrystones. The B1260 NOT 4× stronger, than B1230!

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Thank Jens. They can't be made anymore, and he doesn't seem to want to do '040 or '060 accelerators.

Personally, I don't know why no one has made a cheap 68EC060 or 68LC060 based accelerator.
Floating point calculations aren't used much and could be performed by a math library.
And those cpus will clock at 75 MHz or higher.

B1230 (200 Euro) components:
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/gallery/blizzard1230mk4.jpg
B1260 (600 Euro) components:
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/gallery/blizzard1260.jpg
Nothing gives reasons for the 3× difference in prices.
The component expense is not 3×.
The production cost is not 3×.
CPU price is not 3×.
It is possible to buy it expensively (500-600 Euro) then, if somebody will produce new 68060 card. The real production cost (68060) hardly more, than at the ACA1232 card.

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SysInfo is a rubbish program for benchmarking.

68040 = 2x performance of 68030.
68060 = 2x performance of 68040.
Ergo, 68060 = 4x performance of 68030.  But that's only in the loosest, loosest sense of the words.

Also, dhrystones sucks for benchmarking.  I can alter the numbers significantly (MIPS, as well) just by loading different patches on an Amiga.  Unless your systems are 100% identical, you're never going to get an accurate comparison.

Sorry, the poor English and grammar in this thread are making my head hurt.  I'm out.  :lol:

Frontier 3D game 100% work with my 1232.
What can you do with the 68060/50 card (with FPU), which you cannot make with the 68030/50 card?

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I never said that my 1232 card is faster, than the B1260 50, or 80 MHz.
This the question:
What can you do with the 68060/50 card (with FPU), which you cannot make with the 68030/50 card?
Answers?

Enough are the 68030/50 for the normal Amiga users, whdload games, demos, etc.
I do not want to argue. I want to sell my 1232-50 only. The price is real.

The quantity of the old 68040-68060 cards decreases + new 68040-68060 cards are never being made + Vampire all cards dead end  = the value of the old and ACA 68030 cards increases. The process is unstoppable.

In 2008. Blizzard 1230+68882/50 was 100 Euro, in 2016 250-300 Euro.
2016. May 15. B1230 MK4 030/50, no FPU, 16 MB was 219 Euro.
2016. June 12. B1230 MK4 030/50 + 882/50 + 16 MB was 280 Euro.
2016. July 24. B1230 MK3 030/50, no FPU, 16 MB was 200 Euro.
2016. Sept. 10. B1230 MK4 030/50, no FPU, 4 MB was 180 GBP = 210 Euro.
2016. Sept. 11. B1230 MK4 030/50 + 882/50 + 32 MB was 251 Euro.

2015. June 5. ACA1232/25 was 183 Euro.

2016. June 4. ACA1233/40 + 68882/50 + RTC was 260 USD = 230 Euro.
2016. June 7. ACA1233 030/40 + 68882/50 was 270 Euro.
Etc.

Will not be new 68060 75-100 MHz, 128 MB cards (to A1200 max. 300 Euro), while somebody does not extort the production (from Jens, etc.). The chance is small.

ACA1221EC (120-130 Euro) 68020 28 MHz 16 MB enough to Amiga 500 with ACA500plus (130 Euro). 250 Euro only. A500 + 68030/50 unnecessary.