[Vampire] The AMIGA Future Is NOW! AROS!

[OlafS3]

Good news :-)

it is also important for the future standalone device because Aros includes everything needed out of the box. And of course it solves any legal problem

[OlafS3]

AROS always worked on old amiga hardware

[OlafS3]

I just read the thread. We already have two hdl implementations of the AGA chipset, mine and the minimig derived one. We have extensions such as extra memory, RTG, AHI audio etc already.

I guess the game here is to add propriety extra features and build a new platform, but that potentially breaks back compatibility. For them it makes sense to open source that part of the design to encourage people to use those features. Personally I'm much more interested in a new, cycle accurate (and high performance compatible) open source CPU, which is what we are working towards.
Why not just compile AROS to cheap modern CPU platforms?
/Mike

you can compile AROS almost for anything today including ARM, X86, ARM64 and even PPC. Thanks for hint...

[OlafS3]

I don't have any problem.
But I call the things by his name.
Amiga is hardware and his OS.
Others is "like".

in this case... why do you use a SAM?

[OlafS3]

it sounds like he dislikes competition...

[OlafS3]

@Iggy

Gunnar never claimed to outperform 2 Ghz CPUs... he wants to beat them per Mhz. He is a CPU guy so it is his personal motivation obviously (next to other things)

Regarding CISC they say it would be possible to do one with 1.2 Ghz. If true I do not know

[OlafS3]

You have to run them under uae, which would either use kickstart or aros 68k. It's possible to have the 68k windows appear as if they are on the x86 desktop. You can't use 68k libraries in x86 programs etc.

To mix 68k and x86 applications under the same aros instance would require something like the amithlon gcc compiler that generated x86 code that was big endian. I don't think anyone has ever looked at doing that, but for me this would be awesome. Especially with a decent jit that can compile 68k & ppc binaries into x86 (or x64).

there was a project that tried to implement something like Petunia on X86 Aros but failed. I cannot remember name but found it on web. I could try to find it if you are interested, cannot say much how far it got

[OlafS3]

@dooz

as some already explained Aros 68k works on both amiga hardware and UAE using its own kickstarts. You can execute basically any 68k software written and compiled for 3.x as long the needed libs are implemented. You can even add libs or replace existing ones like replacing Zune with MUI 3.8 what I do in my distribution. Of course when using Zune you can also run Aros specific software.

On the other platforms (X86, X64 and ARM) you can only run Aros software compiled for the specific platform. You cannot directly run 68k software in X86 because there is nothing like Petunia but you can use UAE for it.