Personally, I feel like the most hostility comes from the OS4 crowd (the "real Amiga" people).
They accuse all the rest of us of stealing, when that is pretty much what AInc and Hyperion have done.
As to developers, you're all using Odyssey, and that was created from webkit by a core MorphOS developer.
We might feel like sharing more IF that worked both ways, but the only real cross NG development that seems to occur is between AROS and MorphOS (unless you count developments in legacy or the very occasional total cross platform program like Cinnamon Writer).
Everyone is free to consider porting Ambient.
MUI 4/5 had to be paid for, and development was carried well past what Stuntz had created, which is why they didn't feel like just handing the work over to a commercial competitor.
And then, once the AOS crowd started to Morph an earlier version into something they called MUI4 (primarily to facilitate a port of Odyssey), and then went on to create an MUI5 with incompatibility issues with our existing MUI (and no doubt Zune)...
Do you REALLY expect us to be all smiles?
Look, Ben Hermans is an ASS, and he's made so threatening and unjustified legal claims about our OS, when our OS predates the creation and "acquisition" of the rights to OS4.
So YEAH, there's some hostility there.
AND, it might not be there IF Hermans didn't own those rights...
Frankly, I think there is some level of respect for the Friedens (who own part of OS4), and I know there is more than a little of that for Han de Ruiter (who OS4 users owe quite a bit of thanks too).
BUT, please, don't go pointing your fingers at us.
Because we DON'T spend that much time thinking about or attacking YOU.
We DO respond when you make your quaint comments though. :bitch:
you put me all the time in the 4.X camp...
just for the record... I do not use 4.X and never used it, I do not own any PPC hardware
I became interested again because of Natami project and am only interested in AROS. So please keep me out of this "red vs. blue" thing. If I write something it has zero to do with Ben H., Hyperion, 4.X or similar.
I posted here because you called AROS crap, you seem to forget very fast (age related?). And no indeed, you are not funny I do not think that anyone here thought that. Competition calling crap is not nice gesture, it is not politely and even it is plain wrong. I do not want to talk down MorphOS here, everybody to its own. Ambient was not voluntary made open soujrce from what I read, Stefan Stuntz was willing to open MUI sources as far as I know what would have made life a lot easier for Aros devs but at least one of the core devs was against it and today we have different versions of MUI on the different platforms and MorphOS supporters moan about that. The same is true for RTG... you do not want to cooperate then live with results and "shut up". OWB was originated on MorphOS and Fab was nice enough to open sources for some money. Later MorphOS will benefit from it because one of the Aros devs took the torch.
I was never part of the battle and not in community when it was on its height, I live in 2017 and cannot understand what some people are thinking.
Again if you want more users and devs make them think positive about it, promote the advantages you see, but do not call other camps crap or restart the old debates that lead to nothing except bad feelings.
