Hyperion Entertainment: Clarification of Current Situation

[OlafS3]

The only truly viable way forward is a new modern platform, with a user experience based around what we recognize as Amiga. This means throwing away compatibility with legacy sodtware, but it also means opportunities to reimplement old software concepts in a modern setting. And porting software from other platforms, and getting software support from outside of "amiga land" would also be much easier.

that is pretty vague...

ok we have AmigaOS and MorphOS  that aim at the moment to be binary compatible then we have Aros that is source compatible. From first SMP experimenting it is clear that SMP is not possible to integrate without API changes. I do not know how far development is. "Silly SMP" (the experimenting with SMP) is stopped, on ARIX it seems to be still in development.

How compares your ideas with what is available. And if it breaks everything and no software from Amiga compileable to it why not using f.e. Linux?

[OlafS3]

Yes, and this is currently what I do, because nothing Amiga offer me a modern alternative. Sadly, neither OSX, Windows nor other OSes offer me the Amiga experience. OSX offers the MacOS experience in a modern setting, but I want the Amiga experience in a modern setting. Don't you?

What is the "Amiga experience" for you?

[OlafS3]

@wawrzon

I am looking with one eye on the future too.  The foundations laid now are important enablers for more complex projects later on.

The work that Amiga enthusiasts do in their spare time for little or no money is quite simply remarkable, but relying on the goodwill of these enthusiast developers is not the complete answer as we will be in the same situation in another decade with development ongoing at the same pace.  So a commercial injection of capital is also needed to kickstart the software development process in a structured way.

One example is Free Pascal on AROS. There are already versions for MorphOS and Amiga 68k. Only AmigaOS is not supported because lack of developers interested in it. The project makes fantastic progress and is aiming to bring Lazarus (RAD-Environment) to Amiga. If you would directly support it it would bring potentially lots of software to our platforms. It would be a revolution for out platform. What do you think?

[OlafS3]

From the top of my head...

* GUI available from boot
* graphical early startup
* boot without startup-sequence is still with GUI
* top screen bar with system information
* menu pops up using RMB
* multiselect from menu creates an event chain that is executed when RMB is released
* screens with their own unique properties, resolutions, colour depths etc, private to the application or public
* Save|Use|Cancel

Plus a lot more I am sure. My point is just that nothing technically stands in the way of reimplementing what I mean with "amiga experience" in a modern and secure way. Of course, amiga programmers see this entirely differently.

the most you write is optical/desktop related. For that you could propably already use Linux, the only thing you need to rewrite would be a special desktop or you configure it in a way that is similar. Then you have a modern desktop. But it cannot run Amiga software nor is it really offering something revolutionary compared to other distributions. But you can easily start with it, develop something and show it. There are certainly people here who are interested to use it. I personally am happy with AROS and have enough to do there even though it is not supporting MP and SMP.

[OlafS3]

AROS is only legacy compatible on 68k.  Elsewhere it is only API compatible so no reason not to fork it with any break from compatibility.

He wants a completely new OS that breaks compatibility but has modern features. But which sense makes a OS without software? :confused:

It is a kind "showing what is possible" but for me the practical value would be limited