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Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« on: February 24, 2014, 12:55:41 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;759515
I wish that were so, but on this forum there are many people who want exactly that.
The more Amigalike OSes there are the stronger we all are, but still the forums are full of sniping and attacking... it's a real shame.


It would be at least a little ironic because it was Hyperion who defended "Amiga" against anyone with the intention to use it like AROS or the famous Commodore CUSA who were not allowed to use "Amiga" in conjunction with AROS. There are even some people who only supports it because it is called "AmigaOS".
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 01:43:19 PM »
Quote from: yssing;759586
Wasn't it CommodoreUSA who was after people using the amiga name?
I seem to remember the Daddy being told to remove any reference to amiga in, at least, one video.
And didn't Aros change the meaning of aros before they were told to?

From what I have read recently the change of the meaning happened to avoid a attack of Hyperion even though the AROS people had the permission to use it in this context before. But that was before the time I rejoined. AROS will stay AROS whatever happens, the same for MorphOS. And the 68k people do not care anyway. I think the biggest problems would it be for the AmigaOS fans.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 01:45:51 PM by OlafS3 »
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 01:50:19 PM »
Quote from: yssing;759589
I thought it was because of CommodoreUSA, but in any case, I do think it's okay to defend your rights.
And if Aros did have permission to use the amiga name, then no one can blame Hyperion, CommodoreUSA or any one else for that matter.

I do not really care about if the "A" in AROS can be used as synonym for "Amiga" or not. But of course you could "blame" Hyperion in this context because they were the reason for the change. If a organisation with money would have been behind AROS it would propably been much more difficult to "defend their rights" how you call it. But as I said if someone can use "Amiga" or not will not decide about the future.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 02:41:07 PM »
Quote from: yssing;759594
In any case, if you have trademarks and copyrights you need to defend them, that is usual business. Of you don't defend them you might loose them.


at the moment nobody really has the trademark. "Amiga" is a trademark of AmigaInc. (whatever behind this still is) and not Hyperion. They own "AmigaOS" and "AmigaOne" as far as I know. They only have a court agreement with AmigaInc. and go against everyone on that base. "If" there would be someone with more money than Hyperion and AmigaInc. entering the trademark battle it would be interesting to see what happens.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 03:02:23 PM »
Quote from: Akiko;759598
A mixture of tribal politics and pure badness!

On the one hand you have decent Amigan's that support all of the OS flavors and if they don't then go on about their business and wont bother anyone else.  
On the other hand you have the minority of bitter individuals, usually its the same names that will trawl through every related thread twisting and spitting venom as they go. :(

i found a lot of the threads with Hyperion (Ben Hermans) or the Frieden brothers where I thought "Was that response really necessary?". And I do not even talk about the typcial red vs. blue battle. So they are partly certainly not innocent about the polarisation. For me personal it is not that important who uses the "Amiga" trademark finally. I would have preferred it that it would be used by the different camps (as long as it has still some recognition and thus value) because all are based on the same heritage and API. But this will not happen. So i only look at it from the outside. The faith of a platform is not decided by the trademark but by its features, hardware it runs on, price and software that is available.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 03:08:08 PM »
Quote from: number6;759597
I've posted "whatever behind this still is" several times.
It's simpy the attorney of record - Darren Cohen.

#6


One person? (attorney)

Thanx for info
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 04:03:23 PM »
Quote from: billt;759607
If we transition to Italian, we could call the result BambinOS. :)


nickname "Bambini" :-)
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 04:13:48 PM »
Quote from: vox;759609
Yes, they did that to Daddy. Big holders of no name.

AROS ditched from Amiga Research to just AROS to avoid such assess.

they did that on the base of a contract with this one-person company. But also Hyperion has threatened in the past so both Hyperion and AmigaInc. defend the "Amiga trademark" and try to hinder other persons/companies to use it. But in the end the trademark will not decide the faith.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 04:33:35 PM by OlafS3 »
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 04:45:26 PM »
Quote from: slaapliedje;759614
The worse part is, the ones who 'own' the Amiga trademark are the ones that have the least amount of hardware their Operating System can run on.

AROS obviously runs on the most,
MorphOS the second most,
68k Classics arguably have more hardware available than OS4 does!

It's too bad that all camps just can't get along and try to bring the Amiga back a bit more to the mainstream, but I don't think that could ever happen now, the best chance it had was probably when Gateway had it, but I don't even know if Gateway computers are even around anymore...

slaapliedje


I wrote that I would prefer that too (that it can be used by all camps) but that will not happen because the status quo is preferred by both AmigaInc and Hyperion compared to all camps using the trademark.