Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems

[OlafS3]

"Time to stop playing around guys, its a new millennium.
I'm glad there's someone there to develop new hardware."

I would say "wasting his money"

Regarding naming, by using "A" he would pretend that the new computers with AmigaOS are successors of the classic line (what they claim anyway). It would only confuse new users who (for whatever reasons) search for the old models. But propably these people would soon also learn about MorphOS or AROS so instead trying to confuse potential buyers it would be better to create more competitive OS/hardware that justifies the price difference. I am clearly for that they stay with "X". And to say everything is a good idea that angers TMHG is not very convincing. Perhaps he is not the only one that would be angered.

[OlafS3]

Isn't "writing an Amiga compatible OS from scratch" also a waste of time/money?

Isn't collecting Amiga's also a waste of money?

Yes but spending 1.2 Million Dollar for new PPC based custom hardware in 2013/2014 IS indeed wasting money. It is also called hobby like collecting and repairing oldtimers, collecting stamps or whatever. But he should at least not try to confuse his new toys with the classic line.

And he could have spend it in porting AmigaOS to better and cheaper hardware. "Custom hardware" that offers no real benefits compared to standard hardware makes no real sense.

[OlafS3]

Using the A prefix doesn't bother me but using model numbers of already existing Amiga models is parasitic as TMHG says, not to mention it will cause not just confusion and irrelevant search results but generate an enormous among of bad will towards the OS4 stakeholders.

So much so that search results for their products may be drowned out by the negative feedback it generates possibly damaging sales of their wares.

From amigans (Steve Solie):

http://www.amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1962

"Further more, do you think there are more people buying the beast, if a search engine will present Cyrus base System when you enter Amiga 5000?

Absolutely yes.

Could this be confusing? Is this inconsistent? Yeah but nobody cares. The only people who do care are the hard core Amiga guys. The hard core Amiga guys have made up their minds already so there is no point in pandering to them. We need to think outside this microcosm. After reading "Commodore: A Company on the Edge" recently I'm quite sure Jack Tramiel wouldn't think twice about using the A5000 label because his focus was always on selling more units which is the primary objective here as well."

I think it speaks for itself...

[OlafS3]

No, who told you that?

Is it not?

[OlafS3]

Why not remove A from Aros then? ;-)

Why not remove "a" from bitman? :-)

If you combine "A" with a number and tell that to someone who is either Amiga-User or used Amigas in the past this person thinks of the classic line. What else should they think of? And that would be intentional. Solie has admitted that himself and that he is not interested in what the existing community (68k, MorphOS, AROS) might think about it.

[OlafS3]

Gre*t ide*

reg*rds, Bitm*n

Yes

regards,

Ol*fS3 :-)

[OlafS3]

Regarding the current "naming-fuss", I'm rather neutral - since I'm not using and will (probably) not be using any NG Amiga system for the next couple of years.

On the subject of "parasiting" on "A" and "Ami" - hasn't it always been a part of the Amiga-world: Abox, Ambient, iMica, Natami, AresOne 2011 etc?

We tend to always use an "A" or something that sounds like "AMI".

But not "A" + number. We all know what this means and Steve Solie admitted that it would be intentionally and they would anger a lot of people in the community. Why doing that when you know that potential customers will dislike it? Or does he seriously think AmigaOS has a chance outside the hardcore amigians? I do not think so. Why not just avoiding that and using "X" (or T or V or whatelse)?

[OlafS3]

Please do so, maybe you will also make $2,15. Nothing ill-informed about my previous post, I just read all the stupid posts (like yours) and based on that I still think os4 haters cant stand that Hyperion can use Amiga name be it in AmigaONE, AmigaOS or whatever. Just to make it clear I like all Amiga like systems, classic, OS4, MOS and Aros and I cant understand why people have so much against OS4 and its boards. If its too expensive for you, keep using your MAC and dont hate the ones who can and want to buy X1000, X2000 or whatever. If OS4 is not as good as MOS, again keep using your MAC and dont hate the ones who use AmigaOS.

AmigaOS user seem to see every critic/different view as "hate". I personal do not "hate" it or hate the user. But again why using such a naming with history knowing that you will upset a lot of people who partly propably see it as grave robbery. Better make good products at a good price that persuade people to buy it.