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Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« on: May 06, 2012, 12:06:09 AM »
And I can assure you that the Aros community feels honoured too and appreciates your efforts...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 10:44:49 AM »
Gratulation again for your work :-) We need active members that build something

@BigBen
It was become known that Apple "doubted" the legality of some OpenSource products in a email, that created a "storm" in the web and I never heard anything about it. In the time of the internet informations and news spread in seconds across the whole world so it would be better not to make any "friendly" statements but to pm him and I am sure he would have removed it. By making this in the public you have made yourself to the "bad guys" in the community (if it was legal or not). And people dislike to buy from companies they regard as bad. That is the case with Apple that has many "fans" and also a lot of people that would never buy a product from the company. The amiga-community consists of several thousands users and propably everyone now knows what has happened. So from a marketing point of view it was not a very wise decision, propably driven by emotions.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 02:06:12 PM »
We should not start a "Hyperion bashing" here. Generally speaking using laws to restrict competition is mostly not very well seen by many people and "Amiga" is still sth. very emotional for most here.  In this case here it is "big" versus "small" or (more propably) "small" versus "very small". CUSA should have managed it better more discretely to avoid a thread like this.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 02:43:51 PM »
@take...

I already wrote they could have send him a message or email with the same content and when he not reacts they would have had every right to make it public. That would have avoided the public bashing...

I am a little astonished about what you write. I have every respect for any person who invests his/her time (and money) for a project to bring sth. usefully and wanted to the community. CUSA has invested to gather the license that is OK. But that is not a "big effort" in my view. They assemble standard pcs, that does every small computer-company here (nothing special). They have adapted a linux-distribution. Nice but really nothing new. I have a notebook running kubuntu, they use Mint. So what?

They got some attention because of the brand name. As long as they have nothing innovative that justifies the price, the brand name will more or less useless for them. They made some actions to be in talk in the amiga-community, this certainly was the worst one...
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Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 02:57:46 PM »
We will beat it easily ... :-)
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 03:04:25 PM »
They have the right to act like they did. If it is helpful to win the hearts (and the money bag :-) ) of the people in the community is another question...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 03:26:31 PM »
"Now that's interesting. *Exactly what* is "standard" about the C64x case? It's a really unique thing, properly designed and manufactured, coudln't be more custom made, and not anywhere near something made from bent sheet metal. And making a design isn't the same thing as putting something to the market. A huge amount of resources is needed, so is good management, marketing, etc."

Then I can send you some links to the tests and reactions that were (mostly) not very excited... but that is not my problem, I am not interested in and will not buy it.

The starting point of all threads was the public "friendly" message. Without it this thread (and others) would not have started. I critisize the way they handled it, you are obvious of a different opinion.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 03:34:58 PM »
@Dammy

The information about this has spread all over all amiga-sites (not only amiga.org) and has done a lot of "marketing" damage to CUSA. And not just by Darrin. It is a small community, a couple of sites and a couple of thousand users so it is better to work together (if possible), and react after you think about it and not reacting emotionally. It was legal but not helpful...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 03:49:30 PM »
there is a lot of emotions (hate) between the different camps and that will be difficult to overcome...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 04:12:49 PM »
When you are tired about it why are you "firing" it then?
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 04:24:30 PM »
Yes it was "payback". But when you are in the business world you have to look at what you do. And products are not only the product itself, it is also image/view of the (potential) customers. So instead of admitting that it was propably the false way to reach the goal here (by CUSA) it seem some are concentrating on the creator of the thread (and his views regarding Hyperion in the past).
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 04:33:37 PM »
Who is Erika? ...

Sometimes I think you talk to a concrete wall...

Nobody denied that they had the right to make the request, and they even could do it in public legally. But they should have known it that this would not create sympathy in the community. If they had sent the same text with pm/email to thedadddy he certainly would have removed all signs of "amiga". Nobody here is interested to be involved in legal actions just because of a hobby.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 04:35:39 PM »
community makes the impression of unity and that does not exist for a long time...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 05:14:30 PM »
thank you...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 05:38:53 PM »
Really... ? Then it is not registered anymore? That means they have licensed a trademark that not exists anymore?