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Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:29:37 AM »
Then you should avoid MorphOS too because there is no multicore support. Or am I wrong? :-)
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 01:07:51 PM »
then i can only gratulate your "birdie", but it is hard to believe for me. Why did they lower the prices after one day when all is well? And even now it is too expensive and nothing new or special on it. So perhaps your "birdie" should not believe all it hears...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 01:20:32 PM »
You seem to look at Aros as some kind of reserve only interesting if MorphOS and AOS fail. They will both not "fail" or it depends how you define fail. They have both their supporters who swear on it, they are both depending on old and in case of AOS expensive underpowered hardware and this will not change. So they will stagnate and slowly shrink because they are not able to win new users.

I do not see Aros as "reserve" because it is the only one that supports modern hardware (different platforms) and new concepts.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 01:33:22 PM »
one more than I thought :roflmao:
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 01:51:49 PM »
Then I apologize...

I compare the speed of development and I think in less than 12 months it will be competitive in all areas (and superior in a couple of areas).

And more software... the limitation was that Zune was lacking MUI 4.0 features and thus making Aros-Support complicated. This will change this year. Applications like Digibooster (68k) are f.e. already running on my 68k distribution I am preparing (and that will be part of Aros X86 distrbutions. So situation is improving :-)
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2012, 02:06:13 PM »
I do not know exactly how it is right now on real classic hardware. It is not optimized for amiga hardware so it heavily depends on processor (68060 recommended). The kickstart must be "soft-kicked" to use the kickstart replacement (and that is needed for Aros 68k that needs 1 MB). The problem was that the kickstart replacement did not recognize the Fast-RAM on the Turbocards with the result that from 2 MB Chipram only 0.8 MB left and thus making the system useless. This problem was solved but I do not know if that is true for all Turbocards. And it will propably never run as fast on classic hardware as the original because it was developed on and for much better hardware.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 02:15:21 PM »
a short demonstration of my distribution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRDAXbny428
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 02:31:04 PM »
I meant "congratulate"
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 03:36:18 PM »
If you mean Cloanto with "Amiga Forever" they have also put in work with their distribution and the special UAE-Version, Updates... they are not only selling Roms. And at least there was a legal way to get the amiga files. But I of course have high hopes that Aros with its different platforms and distributions can revive the scene up to a certain degree. Much more than the other OSs are able to because they stuck to old hardware.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 04:47:32 PM »
The idea is certainly not stupid and of course not impossible but Aros is Opensource and that would require that they are more open than now. F.e. I read today that AROSTCP is a port of AmiTCP. It was ported to MorphOS and the changes were backported to Aros. So both sides benefitted. The question is would they accept such conditions?

And Hyperion would give up its uniqueness to a certain degree (like KDE and Gnome are based to the same foundations/kernel).

And one thing you seem to forget... you must recompile all applications to get X86 versions. Not for every program there is the source. And you need some sort of PPC emulation/layer for old apps.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2012, 04:51:49 PM by OlafS3 »
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 05:21:18 PM »
68k is dead as processor-family but not dead on emulation and for thousands of developers and users.
It is for some still the main platform and it is useful as extension for Aros X86.