Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community

[OlafS3]

When I read this I have to answer. That is the same as saying Aros or  Morphos or Amigaos are no new product, they are only extending 3.1.

That is simply wrong!

Natami (and other FPGA-Projects) are not using the old circuits and just  add a little, they reimplement the behavior. From the view of OS and  Applications there is no difference, but in reality it is complete new.

[OlafS3]

In other threads i reacted positive to the new offer of CUSA (even if there are still some doubts...) but when I hear "supporters" like you bashing on community projects I again start to doubt. If you want support by the community it would be better to be more politely. CUSA at the moment has nothing right now that justifies to stick "Amiga" on it. Have you read the reactions to the new "C64" in the web, they were devastating (and I do not speak of their own fan-website but from the public sites. So they need support and bad speaking of others (expecially when you obviously have not read much about that projects and no knowledge of hardware and concepts) will not bring much sympathie and no customers!

[OlafS3]

or just take Natami, there is already all in :-)

[OlafS3]

then i must excuse me...

to the topic. No Amiga-System will again become mainstream (like at the beginning of the 90s). In best case sales are big enough for companies and individuals to create dedicated products (hardware and/or software). But to reach that case there must be interesting (obviously differentiating) products and more competitive prices.

[OlafS3]

I do not want to start a new insulting thread but there are a lot of people in the community who do not trust Hyperion either and even hate them, so we should seperate feelings/emotions and business (and there are reasons to mistrust them too). For me it is the only question if there is a agreement possible that helps/benefits all parties "win-win" or not. I think the sales of their new "C64" are far below expectations so they want (perhaps) make it better with "Amiga". That is only one option, of course it can be a big cheat but if we do not take them seriously we will never find out. As I said CUSA is not the only company in amiga-business who made mistakes, we should make a new start now.

[OlafS3]

it is my personal view. I read the comments/answers after the "News" about the new C64. Almost every comment was negative (price too high, specification too low). Even the most positive comments said that the design is interesting but just for "retro" too expensive. And CUSA did not talk very positive about the community (comments on Aros f.e.) and all of a sudden they start a "Community-project". So something must have changed their minds. But everyone is able to learn :-)