Allegro library

[OlafS3]

I just downloaded the OS4 sources for Allegro off of OS4Depot.  Is there still an interest on the other Amiga-likes?

Yes for 68k if possible :-)

if you manage to get a working 68k version could you PM me on amigacoding.de with a download-link? I would like to integrate it in next version of Aros Vision

[OlafS3]

I have ported it to OS4 but I haven't released it yet as it is not quite finished.  But when it does get released the source will be available in the official Allegro Subversion repository.

I don't plan to do a 68k version as I don't have a classic Amiga any more but with the source code released anyone can updated it to make it work on the 68k and all the hard work is already done.  :-)

The only thing is that I am not sure that performance will be acceptable on 68k - even on my 800 Mhz AmigaOne it's a bit slow.  It's graphics architecture isn't very easy to optimise.  :-(

it is a pretty old thread but I wanted to comment it... I will create a "lame" benchmark page comparing 68k, PowerPC and X86 (where available) where you will see that 68k on UAE (or Amithlon/Aminux) outperforms at least many of the PPC platforms. So speed is not that big issue anymore.

[OlafS3]

OK interesting, but I'm prety sure that most of emulation guys / girls, do nothing more that play superfrog once a while or something like that.

Even if that would be true what has that to do with what I wrote?

[OlafS3]

OK interesting, but I'm prety sure that most of emulation guys / girls, do nothing more that play superfrog once a while or something like that.

even user who only use it for gaming are potential customers. The attitude "we are the elite, the NG user" and there are the "retros, only use it for gaming" is wrong, expecially if there are much more 68k users than all "NG" users combined. So I want to proof that you can develop on 68k with lots of power behind. Add there highly optimized libraries written in assembler for slow (from todays view) computers than you get the picture

[OlafS3]

My point was something like this, those who emulate just want to feel like there were kids. They are not interested Amiga OS, or even think that Amiga OS could be their hobby. They are not interested to play "new games" with amiga, just super frog/super giana sister or what ever they played when they were kids.

But generally speaking ofcourse you are right, there are lots of 68k Amiga users.

68k Amiga OS even has a good hobby factor, but I'm afraid that without hardware, you can't get people tinkering with it. Windows/Linux/MacOS are so much better in every way than any Amigish OS, wich means OS 1.2-4.1, MorphOS or Aros.

By the way, I do apriciate your job with 68k Aros and I have high hopes of it.

Another new product wich I had high hopes was ACA500, but I'm afraid it has done wrong way. In current form it attracts only those who already has a Amiga hobby.

Jens should have made it tiny with GVP HD+8 style case, some more ram and maybe even lan, but without A1200 connector.

I am in contact with Jason who is the main contributor to Aros 68k (next to Toni W. regarding roms).

http://www.fpgaarcade.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=5

There are also at least 2 other FPGA projects that work on cores that run on standard FPGA hardware. That was my idea when I started to work on Aros Vision, to have a standard 68k platform that builds a bridge between "classic hardware", new future FPGA hardware and emulated (UAE) environments like those on AROS X86/ARM/PPC/X64 or running on its own in WinUAE and FS-UAE on Windows/Mac/Linux. For that I needed a reliable and usable distribution and I think I am there now. Next version (2.4) will be available on its own, in the new app-store of Phoeniuxconsole and on stick (AMINUX). Next phase in future will be adaption to the needs of the classic fans. BTW does anyone what is with FPGA Arcade? Pretty quiet lately...