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Offline Tellurium

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« on: November 10, 2017, 06:15:48 PM »
@kolla
Do you realize of course that the 68000 was “microcoded”, right ? And the OS has no exposure to that. Do you realize that Intel periodically still pushes microcode updates to some of his cpus, and the OS does not directly access it?

I am not siding with the Apollo team, but I frankly miss the Amiga community of old. When we called ICs by name, knew what we were doing, complained zero and produced a lot.

Amiga OS needs apps and users, not useless quarrels

@everyone
Repeat after me: FPGA is as hardware as your Gayle and Gary chips, just not requiring a foundry to overlay connection maps via lithography masks.

And repeat again: either you code your HDL into NAND gates or MUX/LUT  blocks, it remains equivalent, except the additional complexity

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So it is an emulator, a piece of software running out of the reach for the operating systems, hosted by the Apollo Core.
What other pieces of software are running out of reach for the operating system?
 

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 07:25:58 PM »
Asking and not trusting is not a good pattern. Whatever the Apollo crew would say, could ever change your mind?

If I were in a similar position as you are now, I’d get AsmOne with its interactive mode and type small snippets to Unit test if output corresponds to what I expect. AMMX or whatever they call the extension cannot activate if you don’t ping it, so in case you don’t need it, it would be just like empty space.

It’s a general purpose execution unit in a cheap and dirty low end fpga. I Do not expect it to have an AI aware Bitcoin wallet sniffer within. And if in doubt, i’d Keep the wallet away from an Amiga and/or not buy it.

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@Tellurium

Yes, I am aware of that - it is fairly well described and documented, and what isn't, is to be picked apart by various communities. Is that what we want in Amiga land too?

Is it wrong to raise questions about what takes place in the core? All experience says that provoking questioning is the only way to get solid information.
 

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 07:10:57 PM »
Sanity has left this place since a long time I see.

Been Tellurium since 2009. My previous account was deleted in the great purge of dormant accounts. Not posting due to the state of decay of this once glorious community. I came to buy an Amiga a bit late, in 1992, it was the beginning of the AGA, the beginning of the end already. I have no idea about you, but I am 40 and really too old for this insanity.

These tribal wars you fight make me just as sad as I feel reading the counter-trolling and the other troll wars.

I do not have a vamp and do not need one. But I may test one in the future and if it runs Amiga OS, the way I want it, then it is gonna be fine for me.

I am closing here. I do not care of these childish quarrels in fashion on this forum. I guess I can spend another decade lurking, for what is worth. All this is so terribly sad.
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