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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« on: April 09, 2011, 11:54:32 PM »
For amiga software, this would have been a nice system. Probably better in 92, but even 93 or 94, people were still buying 1200's, so they would have bought this.

Strike a deal with whoever to make expansion cards cheaper and its a winner.
 

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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 11:49:45 PM »
I guess maybe this was just a local thing but I dont know many, if any people who sat and compared specs and bought their computer based purely on that.
 
People bought an amiga because they wanted an amiga and the software eco system that went with that. Same for people who bought a PC or a Mac.
 
Buying a 2000 dollar PC is no dice if you want to run an amiga application, and no amount of 68060 will help you run a PC or Mac application (well, actually.. it might for mac :) )
 

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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 03:54:57 AM »
We had a thread awhile abck about what specs peoples amigas were in 94, when commodore folded.
Most of them were /extremely/ modest.
 

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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 05:04:04 PM »
Quote from: pwermonger;631452
Well if you read the accounts from people like Haynie it appears the 3000 was originally supposed to be the 4000, with a DSP. That means AGA chipset on an 030 back in thereabouts of 1990 unless I have read the accounts wrong. Thats the only thing I can see that would have helped, not cancelling machines with advanced chipsets and stagnating on Agnus/Denise/Paula for so long. People bought machines back then based on capabilities not OS. Only way to enhance the capabilities was with new chipsets on the Amiga.

So, a chipset that could compete with early VGA relatively well, years sooner. Many projects that could have kept Amiga competitive longer cancelled not because it couldn't be done but because of management.

This is why I don't consider any retread of the existing Amigas as able to make a dent to change the outcome. Maybe just forestall it a few more months with some added sales to existing customers but to justify it, the costs of retooling an assembly line have to be factored in. They had a retread, remember? the CD32. It didn't change the outcome.


Well, part of the CD32 problem was that they couldn't make enough of them to meet the sales demand, and weren't allowed to sell in the US.

This is as far as Dave Haynie's deathbed vigil video goes anyways. I figure he knows what he was talking about
 

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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 01:40:53 AM »
THere's a lot of amiga guilt going on here.
 
On one hand, we know Commodore had difficulty meeting demand for 1200's and CD32's (from various people over the years, who were involved, Dave Haynie for one).
 
On the other hand, we have plenty of people saying that despite this, nobody would have wanted to buy a beefier 1200 or whatever, because there were PC's in existence.
 
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Re: Amiga 1300[What ifs]
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 01:25:56 AM »
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Right OK after raiding a pile of magazines....
 
A1300 = Amiga Technologies
A1400/A1400CD = Commodore.
 
By 95/96 Escom era the A1300 would have failed. 030 is no improvement to gaming over 020 so overpriced compared to 125mhz 486 £499 PC bundles.
 
AT never came up with a good idea, Walker=dated and the green A4000T case design proposal made me throw up a little. Add £399 A1200 14mhz relaunch and no wonder they sank fast.

I think we were getting screwed in Denmark when it came to computers. The PC we got in 98 or 99 (forget the exact year) was about twice that money, and that was a piece of *(&#& :)