What the F***!

[runequester]

*looks at his P4 daily driver....

Garbage?  I can play 1080p matroskas on it...geforce 7000...I can code java in eclipse and python in vim.  I could also do that on a MorphOS box.  I'll toss the P4 when it is absolutely finished.  Part of the love I get from Amiga old skool is saving silicon from someone's melt-down shop in Bangladesh.  I had fired up a copy of memacs that came on my A2000-it was fine!  Loved it, in fact.  My code looks just as pretty on it as it does on this machine.  Of course, I have no way of getting it OFF my a2000, but all in due time.  It's what makes me happy.

Bingo good sir.

[runequester]

I've played around with the numbers, and even with my computers completely unplugged my electric bill barely moves.  Considering if I bought a new high end machine for each processor changeover (I'll say 2- one for core2 or quad extreme and one for i7 or Phenom) at a couple grand a pop I still haven't covered that cost in electricity by a loooong shot.  I doubt there is much power draw difference between a p4 and a core2.  Now either of those compared to the A2000...

EDIT:  I'll tell you what DOES affect my electricity bill--teenagers.  I come home- every light on in the house plus the bathroom fans, them staring into the back of the refrigerator with the door wide open for god knows how long..."Dude, there's nothing to eat!"

Im assuming the TV is on, and music is playing in at least 2 rooms too

[runequester]

While Im the sort of guy who generally likes to keep reasonably uptodate with the pc world I can completely understand why some people are happy with thier 5-10 year old machine. X86 hardware hit a spot a long time ago where for a lot of usage there's simply no need to upgrade. Sure theyre technically miles faster, but for some people that's pretty moot, depending on thier needs.

My machine is fairly modest in the big picture (2.4 dual core, 4 gigs RAM) but as I dont play hardcore PC games, I have a hard time imagining anything I'd need more horsepower for.

I have to go out of my way to push ubuntu to 2 gigs of RAM in use.

[runequester]

I don't use Ubuntu.  It depends on what garbage you add to Linux to make it a slow pig.

If people are concerned with speed, they can load up DSL or another 50 meg distro that can run entire in RAM.
 

I can't remember the last time my Linux box crashed, but I'm just a end user and not a Dev.  A decent OS is going to take time, AROS has taken what, 14 years to get to where it is today?  I think C=USA inked the deal with AI this past fall.  That's not much time really when you think what has to happen before the first machine can roll off the assembly line.

People have some amazing expectations about what it actually takes to write an OS.

Windows and Mac OS has been developed over decades, by billion dollar corporations. Linux has been developed over decades, with thousands of contributors, including plenty of billion dollar corporations.

That AROS is where is at, is nothing short of amazing, but the notion that it'll swoop in and suddenly get people to buy that instead of windows is futile.

[runequester]

Funny, the constant Linux bashing on Amiga forums. Remember, without Linux there would be almost no software to run on the various Amiga clones. Almost every piece of software available for these systems are Linux ports.
 
I'm running Debian sid (unstable) and it's rock solid, I only reboot when I install a new kernel. And I mess a lot with my system, just for fun or to try new stuff.
 
About Aros being faster than Ubuntu. Well that may be, it's a very bloated distro, But I'm running a very lean setup, build everything from the ground up with a netinstaller.
 
I installed Icaros last summer to play around with. I have to say that installing Icaros on my laptop (a Pentium IV, the only Aros compatible hardware I have) was a very long process, I could have installed 4 linux boxes in the same time. Once installed I was very dissapointed with the speed of Aros compared to my Debian setup on the same hardware, the window managers I use (dwm, i3, pekwm, evilwm and fluxbox) run circles around Aros. I've tried it for a couple of weeks and wiped the Aros install after that.

I guess Im wondering how much faster it (AROS) can be.
Im running ubuntu and my machine boots is about 30 seconds, including the BIOS stuff, and shuts down in 3 or 4.
 
On my friends netbook, it boots in literally 10 seconds.
 

As far as linux bashing, I guess some people feel windows is more "amiga" or they just gave up on feeling any sense of ownership of their software.

[runequester]

Well, if anyone wants, they can buy my "amiga". Its a generic dual core PC with 4 gigs of RAM, running linux.
 
The price is only 900 dollars, which is a STEAL in amiga terms, and I'll put amiga stickers on everything.