Amiga vs PC

[runequester]

I wonder if Commodore 64 forums ever have to put up with this crap.

[runequester]

I would say the PC is overdue for a redesign: when Google comes out with its seconds boot will be the beginning of a whole new PC era... so, relic or no, the PC is still using the same design architecture as the 286.

My box boots in 13 or 14 seconds, and shuts down in 2 or 3.
WIth SSD's, its possible to get ubuntu up and running in 5 seconds.

[runequester]

Maybe from spectrum users? :lol:

and they both hate on the dude with the atari 400

[runequester]

Hi,

I use my Amiga to keep hold of all my important data, pictures, music, documents, insurance stuff, etc. My Amiga 4000 has been doing it all with old antiquated programs like pen pal, Miamiga file, word perfect, and Final Writer. Things I don't use the Amiga for is guess what, can you spell internet.

but

I have never lost any data on my Amiga 4000 since I bought it in 1992. (heh, heh one of the benefits of being a Commodore salesmen back then).

Look if I didn't think that the Amiga was the best thing since salted peanuts, I wouldn't of sold it and yes I did own PC's back then, I had an Otrana portable, a PC-10, PC-20, and a C128 (a very enjoyable computer). Never owned a MAC because it seemed like such a dead piece of locked up system and hardware piece of crap.

Anyhow when you compare an Amiga with a PC think of the most important thing you keep on your PC, and that is data. I have a new quadcore, screaming gamming machine, and you know what, it is a miracle when I complete a game, because the darn computer keeps either locking up, getting infected, or just plain crashes. I find myself reloading about every 6 months. Can any of you mighty mouth PC owners tell me everything that is running on your PC? Can you tell me if your registery is completely clean? Can you tell me when you are on the internet who is lurking in the background? Can you tell me what files belong where and if they are really part of the Winblows os?

Probably not, I have several years of administrative training, and sometime it take me and several other people to solve a problem.

smerf

Friends don't let friends use windows

[runequester]

I've made the case for open source alternatives to friends that have nothing but pain with Windows day after day. Yet, despite not actually doing anything with their machines that really needs it, they seem unduly resistant to the idea. I guess they have a masochistic streak
 
Anyway, back on topic, we all know the Amiga was better back when it actually counted; in the days of genuine home computing. That era has gone. People may actually do more stuff with their computers nowadays, but precious little of it is what I'd call computing. Farting about on farcebook and the like seems to be what it has all come down to for many people today.

Out of curiosity,what do you consider "computing" ?
 
Ive been meaning to open some sort of thread about this, but I guess this is as good as any.

[runequester]

Each to thier own, and it's sort of off topic, but has been mentioned a few times within the thread..... anyway, I just wanted to disagree about linux being more fun and/or having more "soul" than Windows. Linux feels more mechanical and personality barren than any other OS Ive used.... having said that Ive only used Ubuntu (yuck), Madriva (my fav. from what Ive tried), and Fedora Core as far as Linuxes go. Not to say it's not effective, I just find it completely bereft of any sort of personality. Windows (the OS itself, has always been software I enjoy on Windows) for me started being fun once I started playing with Nlite.... I currently have XP Pro + SP3 installed and its roughly 150meg total,... Windows, program files folder, etc, while retaining everything needed (yet to find software that doesnt work (including recent games)).... was quite fun to see how much it can be stripped without losing functionality, sort of the opposite to OS3.x (the end results of enhancing os3.x to a XP+SP3 level of usability arent too dissimilar in size). System now boots in literally 5 seconds after bios post.... makes a very host for a dedicated emultor machines/media centre/etc.

heck, Damn Small Linux is 50 megs including apps.
I guess :soul: is dependent on what you want from it and what you put in. Linux I can mess with, nothings off limits, and I am not borrowing the software or having to agree to a bunch of limitations on what I can do.
That gives it soul to me.
 
I know a few people who swear by win2K so obviously it has soul to them.
 
As a few people has alluded to, its all about what makes it tick for you

[runequester]

If they (M$) blow so bad explain why any computer you buy has the latest Windows on it.  Explain why most corporations use Windows and other M$ stuff.  I think the majority of the haters had a PEBKAC issue they were too dense to solve, and decided the entire thing was worthless.

Right. Just like the black eyed peas are a better band than the beatles because they sell more CD's.

Marketing my friend. Nothing else matters.
You know this. Everybody know this.

As far as "most corporations" it depends. The computer the secretary is sitting at probably runs XP and office. The server, probably not. Mission critical computers, likely not.
Heck, Google has officially tossed MS products out for their machines.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/

Most IT managers don't want to explain to their GM why the server just happens to break once a month.

If omgLINUX was packaged on every PC at BestBuy, IT would be what is most targeted for bullshit spyware/nonsense.  Why would spyware people want to target the minority.  That's why your Amigas don't get viruses when you go on the googlemachine.  The world at large doesn't give a damn about them anymore.

If virus and malware writers wanted to do real damage, why aren't they infecting the linux/unix/BSD machines that actually run just about any server of importance.

Heck, imagine the geek cred you would get if you actually brought down a linux server cluster.

And yet, it doesn't happen.

Do you think Pixar is using Amiga's? No.  

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Pixar_An_Intel_Shop_Say_It_Aint_So_Steve/

Looks like Pixar and ILM use linux, and were swapping from unix.

If windows is so great, why don't million and billion dollar corporations like ILM, Pixar and Google use it ?

Why does virtually no US Government website run on windows ?

[runequester]

Actually Pixar use a combination of Windows, Mac, and Linux. A quick glance around thier website shows that. The link provided is more than 7 years old. Linux is probably the least prominent of the OSes they use if thier website is any indication.

Im poking around their website and Im not seeing anything specific about OS use. Care to link what you found ?


http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=pixar.com&x=0&y=0
As an aside, they are of course running their server on linux

[runequester]

my usual yardstick for comparing amiga and pc sound is Turrican 2 vs Doom.