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[Thorham]

Take Dpaint or Ppaint, this are arguably the best paint programs for AmigaOS, but they do not support 32bit and does not support a lot features not compared to modern paint programs.

Don't forget Brilliance 2 Anyway, those paint programs are aimed at indexed pixel art in up to 256 colors. The kind of features you want for true color graphics fall outside of the scope of this software.

[Thorham]

Just curious (as I don't follow these things) has the price of the X1000 dropped considering how long it has been out

If they lowered the price, then they'd probably loose money.

[Thorham]

And what is a real Amiga?

Simple, it's the machines made by Commodore and Escom. The ones that say 'Amiga' on them. They usually come with OCS, ECS or AGA and a CPU from the 68000 family.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against AOS4 machines.

[Thorham]

You are mentioning or defining something based on an outdated hardware

Of course I am, because Amiga computers are outdated computers from the past.

that had the company remained active and not bankrupt would be a complete different hardware

But they did go bankrupt, hence the reason why no Amiga computers were produced after the AGA machines, except perhaps in name only (which doesn't count, of course).

Why this need to slap the Amiga name on EVERYTHING? What's wrong with calling a Sam a Sam? Or an X1000 an X1000? Or a Mac with Morph OS a Mac? What's next? A Peecee with Aros is an Amiga, too? Really, I don't get it.

[Thorham]

Alright, then assume they did not go bankrupt and they did move away from AGA to PPC

I won't, because it never happened, and because it never happened it's irrelevant.

Why are you so bent on enforcing your definition on us?

I'm not. Someone asked a question, I answered.

Say we come here and say hey I think X1000 is a real Amiga...that is my opinion

Exactly. It's an opinion, and opinions aren't always facts.

in your opinion I am a moron

Did I say that? No, I didn't, and I didn't imply it, either.

keep your opinion to yourself

So, basically anyone is allowed to say whatever machine is an Amiga, but when you disagree with that, and want to say that only classics are Amigas you have to keep it to yourself? That's a bit odd, isn't it?

2) You would not be targeted under attack or hated by people or people find you annoying.

Not everyone has to like me

By the way...what is wrong calling AROS an Amiga again?

Because it's software. Amigas are hardware. Furthermore, a peecee running Aros is a peecee. Hardware is what it is; it's not defined by what you run on it. Or does an Amiga become a Mac when you run Shapeshifter on it? Does an Amiga become a peecee when you run PCTask on it? Think about it.

[Thorham]

Then why would you define Ubuntu as Ubuntu regardless of the hardware it is in

Because Ubuntu is software. Same for, say, Word Perfect. Word Perfect for the peecee is Word Perfect, just like Word Perfect for the Amiga is Word Perfect. It's simply what the software is called.

but when you define an Amiga you don't define it as a software you define it as a hardware

That's because it is hardware.

and the hardware it uses is identical to the Mac?

The CPU is. The rest of the machines aren't the same, except for some generic components perhaps. Having the same CPU doesn't make two computers the same.

Sure the hardware is customized it is designed to run just Amiga

Amigas are designed to be Amigas. Computers that can run anything that's written for them. Just like peecees are designed to be peecees, Macs to be Macs and Atari STs to be Atari STs. What those machines run is completely irrelevant. An Amiga that runs linux is still an Amiga, just like a peecee that runs linux is still a peecee. The machines don't magically change into a linux.

Hardware does not equal software, and Amigas are hardware, period. I find it truly astounding how definitions have to be bent and twisted to fit whatever anyone wants them to be. Back in the Commodore days Amigas were known as computers with OCS/ECS/AGA+68K. Now Amiga has to mean whatever anyone wants.

[Thorham]

I don't think he was trying to be obnoxious or trolling.

No, I wasn't. Someone asked a question ('What is Amiga?') and I answered.

[Thorham]

Of course my computer is a Mac.
It runs circles around my Amiga.

And my peecee runs circles around my Amiga. Point?