AVI question

[Thorham]

no no
 you are fake you are a liar
 sysinfo on a 040/40mhz reports only 30 mips

a 060/50mhz does 38 mips in sysinfo
all of this can be verified easily in the web

And you believe those figures? Because according to that, a 40 and 60 are almost the same speed per mhz, and that's obviously nonsense. 60s do need properly optimized versions of software to really be faster, though.

Basically it doesn't matter what Sysinfo says, because Sysinfo isn't a good benchmark. Use good benchmarking software, and even then you have to be careful. Different 68000 family processors need different optimizations to really run efficiently, and a one size fits all benchmark like Sysinfo that also doesn't do real life tests (hugely important!) is basically a crappy benchmark.

People need to stop relying on Sysinfo, period.

[Thorham]

yes the 040 and the 060 are same speed per mhz , ie idem core excepting the 060 have a faster FPU

No, they're not the same speed per mhz, and I'm pretty sure of that. You're basing this on Sysinfo, and that's just plain wrong.

and yes SYSINFO is the best benchmark,that's because was always used for comparison

No, it's not the best benchmark. Also, how much something is used has no effect on it's quality. Not to mention that benchmarks in general are tricky.

now if ppl like you who have a 060 like to use innacurate benchmarkslike sysspeed because they feel they have a faster CPU is a different history

I don't have a 60, nor do I have a 40 (I have a 30). What you're saying is just highly unlikely. I already explained how you can get more performance from 60s by using proper optimizing techniques. Techniques that only work on 60s. One size fits all benchmarks like Sysinfo don't take these features in account.

Anyway, if you want to believe Sysinfo, go right ahead, just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

[Thorham]

uh yeah
I forgot the 060 is a dual core

Having two integer units or two cores doesn't mean the same thing. A 60 can execute multiple instructions at the same time if they're in the right order. This has absolutely nothing to do with running multiple threads at the same time.

[Thorham]

To LaserBack:

Instead of calling people fakes, and saying dual core all the time, you could read up on the 60 specs: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MC68060

And here's a 60 diagram where you can see the two integer units pOEP and sOEP:



You keep going on about Sysinfo. That bench mark isn't accurate. Get over it, and accept the facts. And no, 60s aren't dual core, they have two integer units, NOT TWO CORES. Is that so hard to understand? No one ever said anything about 60s having two cores except YOU.

You deny plain facts that have been know by skilled 60 assembler coders for over ten years now. Stop being so stubborn, and throw that damned Sysinfo in the trash. It's NOT a good bench mark for 60s, period.

Anyway, believe what you want, it doesn't matter, because your beliefs don't change the facts.

[Thorham]

sysinfo is 100% accurate

No, it's not. No benchmark is 100% accurate, and if you knew what you were talking about, you would know this.

2 integer units ? wtf ?: they are in your imagination lol

No, they're not. They're a well documented part of Motorola's 68060 design and implementation. Didn't you look at the diagram I posted? Why don't you download Motorola's official 68060 documentation and see for yourself.

Really, you either have no clue whatsoever about what you're saying, or you're just trolling.

Anyway, I'm completely done with this crap. If you can't be bothered to learn anything, then that's fine with me. However, I do have a problem with you calling people liars and fakes, while YOU are the one who's completely and utterly clueless. And if you're just trolling, then grow the hell up.