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Re: Best things about owning an amiga?
« on: April 02, 2011, 12:01:58 AM »
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Same today as it was back then... the simple fact you're using the best home computer and OS ever conceived... :D
Except for the fact that the desktop and window manager suck big time. This has to change!
 

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Re: Best things about owning an amiga?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 12:18:40 AM »
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Dunno about "desktop" or "window manager"... only ever used Workbench and Intuition takes care of the windows... ;)
Workbench is the desktop, and Intuition is the window manager. desktop and window manager are general names for components that exist in many operating systems, including AmigaOs :)
 

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Re: Best things about owning an amiga?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 12:40:59 AM »
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Never used those terms in 25 years of Amiga use to describe anything on the miggy or heard anyone call them that up till now... :)

Don't you think that using such terms that make them sound like a Windoze product is a wee bit of an insult to the good old miggie... ;)
No, I don't think it's insulting to use general terms to describe OS components on the Amiga :)
 

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Re: Best things about owning an amiga?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 05:27:07 PM »
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I can't understand this statement, since my way of working is much more compatible with Workbench than KDE, Windows, Finder, GNOME and FVWM combined. You are confusing your preference with superiority!
No, I'm not confusing preference with superiority. The AOS desktop and window manager are very primitive and slow, many of the current features are missing, and I find this a pain.

As for your preferences, there's absolutely no reason at all why a modern desktop and window manager (written from scratch for AOS) can't work in a way similar to AOS' desktop and window manager, and it's actually quite important to be able to configure such a system to work in the way the user wants.

This means you get to use the system in the way you use Workbench, while still getting all the new features, while others can configure it to work more like other GUI systems if they want.
 

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Re: Best things about owning an amiga?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 02:45:20 PM »
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Most Features you might be missing can be installed with commodities.
The desktop and window manager should be replaced, trying to fix old software seems pretty pointless to me (in this case).
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As for speed - on comparable hardware you won´t find anything that is faster than Workbench.
Doesn't mean a faster gui system isn't possible.
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What is your favorite WM?
I don't really have one! I'm just complaining about the AOS gui lagging behind, while this isn't necessary from a technical viewpoint.
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But neither KDE nor GNOME nor Windows nor Mac OS let you even control the Z-order of your windows properly. You can´t tell Windows to open two files of the same type with different programms. You can`t leave out icons on your desktop or snapshot a window or icon.
Those are nothing but flaws in those gui systems, and there's no reason why we can't have a gui system that does it all right.
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All this is just on Workbench and I bet if someone implements "modern" features into Workbench, he is going to break some of the old stuff. Why not let these be commodities?
Better to replace Workbench.
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I don´t get your meaning of "modern" anyways. Or do you mean multitouch?
No, I mean far less limited than what's available for AOS. Mui is a nice attempt, but can still be done better, and certainly faster.