Amiga vs PC

[Thorham]

Those who insist on defending the idea that original Amigas are a potential alternative to modern computers:

They can be, but it depends on what you do with them. Some people happily only use classic hardware, and nothing else. I know a guy who hates peecees, and he won't get one, so he sticks with his A1200+'030. He has to use peecees at work, and thinks that is enough peecee use for him Somewhere I can't really blame him, and the only thing I'd miss would be Opera and some old peecee games (I have an old 667 Mhz Pentium 3 here), such as Diablo 2 LOD, Warcraft 2, Starcraft Broodwar, and some others.

Side note: I see classic Amigas as modern machines, new peecees are simply much faster, but that's all they are, faster. Compare 70ties and earlier computing to the 80ties/90ties and later, and you'll get a good idea of why I think this

Why would anyone posting to this thread take themselves too seriously?

:lol:

[Thorham]

These are all tangible benefits for most users. Let's face it, the Amiga as a hardware platform is not modern.

What is it then? An antique? No, a Cray 1 is antique, or all the other machines that came before it. In the 80ties computing changed. Nice and simple machines that you plug in and can use. That is modern is to me. In this sense new computers are just more of the same and nothing else.

The modern era of computing didn't start a few years ago, but a few decades. Don't confuse power and extended features with modernity, it's about the essence.

A good example is modern medicine. It's not a couple of years old, but started a relatively long time ago. Sure we have more advanced techniques today, but medicine 50 years ago was already modern, and it could be argued that it was decades before.

It's easy to call something not modern because it doesn't perform as well as machines of today

Try running AROS, amithlon or even just UAE on a current "peecee" and tell me you don't find any advantages at all.

Yeah, it will be faster. If I want speed, then I'll just do it on my peecee. To me it's about using an Amiga, and if I find something it won't do fast enough (or badly because of crappy software), then I'll use something else. Speed on my Amiga isn't all important too me, and my Blizzard '030 is fine (wouldn't use an '060 much, for example).

[Thorham]

Would that be the same Cray 1 that in 1975 ran at over 10x the clockspeed of your first Amiga and supported SIMD/vector execution?

Yes, that one. Cost million of dollars, needed a room to operate, had a power consumption of 15000 Watts (or something similar), no ide hard disks, and probably some I didn't mention. That's not very modern.

An A1200 with a 50 Mhz '030 isn't quite as fast (it wouldn't be even at the same clock speed), but it's cheap, easy to operate, doesn't use much power, and if it's Ide, it'll run it (with drivers) and of course it doesn't need a room to operate and has a nice (although simple) multitasking GUI OS. No contest really.

This is exactly what I mean with computing in the 70ties and before VS the 80ties and after. The Cray 1 is probably still more powerful than the fastest 680x0 based Amiga, but I wouldn't want one even if you paid me, because they're not easy to use, while an Amiga is easy, just like peecees.

In terms of cars it would be simple: A horse and carriage is old fashioned, while high end sports cars from the 60ties aren't, they're simply outperformed by todays best sports cars. That's what I mean by modern.

[Thorham]

Okay, I guess I can't get my point across, but it doesn't really matter, because people can always agree to disagree