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Re: Possible NEW USB solutions for the Amiga
« on: November 06, 2012, 03:05:08 PM »
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Carefully look at Errata number 1 (I've got no idea if the SMD hub chip crasbe is going to glue onto the board his this "problem", but if it has, then no mice or keyboards will be working)
I would guess that wouldn't pass initial tests, so he wouldn't use that chipset.  Something to be aware of tho....

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and number 6 (not that the other ones aren't bad, but the last one would make me refrain from using any MSD devices with it!).
It sounds like that's just something to be aware of for the USB stack (don't use "auto-increment").  I don't see how this affects me at all..
The performance of USB (especially over clockport) is probably going to be throttled by many other things before this would cause an issue..
And remember, this is supposed to be low cost, so slower isn't a big deal.  People who need more speed can buy the more expensive faster cards.  ;-)

So, I don't see any major issues holding this back..

Looking forward to a possible clockport version.

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Re: Possible NEW USB solutions for the Amiga
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 05:42:49 PM »
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This is not a clockport card, but a Zorro card.
Yes, but as I said, I'm hoping for a clockport version.
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The workaround (in the HCI driver, not the USB stack BTW) as stated in the errata would AT LEAST halve the speed of the data transfer on an already slow 8 bit interface. In my eyes it would render the mass storage use case useless.
However, not all Amiga owners see things thru your eyes, hence there are multiple solutions..  At least half (maybe slower) than it "could be" is still better than no USB (or so expensive that they can't afford it).

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Sometimes I wish the Amiga users wouldn't be wearing those reality-warping glasses.
Funny, I'm looking at my office, and I see an Amiga 1200 that wouldn't care about "half the speed."  I think that Amiga is real..
Hold on, let me check...

Hmm...
It seems real....  ;-)

Or do you mean because you "require" it to be faster, that anything that isn't faster is wrong for everyone else?

I wasn't saying this would be the best card ever...
I was saying that even with it's drawbacks (which I admitted are there, no "warped reality"), there are plenty of people who could enjoy it given it's possible price point.

I wasn't saying it wasn't a bad solution for you.  Just that it might be an OK solution for other people..

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« Last Edit: November 07, 2012, 05:46:42 PM by desiv »
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.