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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« on: April 15, 2012, 11:58:47 PM »
Where to start.. ;-)
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Erm I have used this same SP2 machine since 2004 and surfed/downloaded everything everywhere so yes.
So, since you haven't had any problems, there are no problems to be had?
Interesting "security concept" there...

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Only nobs think a Microsoft only security system will work....
Don't remember anyone saying that you should "only" use MS here..

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intelligent tech guys don't need SP3, never did.
No, they don't "need" SP3..
But, most "intelligent" tech guys will tell you that you will be safer running SP3, as it fixes numerous security holes.
No security company will tell you, "Hey, use our product and you won't need MS updates!!"  

Not to mention the stability fixes (that were already mentioned earlier).  ;-)

Use SP3 or don't use SP3.
But let the "intelligent tech guys" speak for themselves...
(Not saying I am one, but I've read posts here already from some that I know are.)

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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 12:33:28 AM »
Quote from: persia;688689
People still running XP?  Must we prove that we're a bunch of people left behind by history...
We're on amiga.org....
I don't think there's anything to prove really..  :laugh1:

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Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 04:19:31 AM »
Quote from: smerf;688918
You have got to learn to give up the old and go with the new

That all depends what you want to do with the computer.
If it does what you need it to do with those specs, and it's not being used for anything critical...
Yes, you could spend a few hundred dollars to upgrade it to do what you are doing now..

Or you could not spend the few hundred dollars, and use it for Amiga purchases.  ;-)

I have a fairly old PC (by today's standards) that does what I need.
Instead of upgrading that PC, I have an accelerated Amiga 1200 with a MAS Player Evolved (just got that today)....

I think, for me, that was a better choice for my money..

Yes, I still can't play on my PC, but I'm OK with that.

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Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 02:38:25 AM »
Quote from: haywirepc;689471
AFOREVER attempts to force you to upgrade to the lastest aforever, which includes their retroplatform garbage and other bloat, I didn't want... Once upgraded... The upgrade makes it no longer run on your machine. Thats bad programming period. Hey this works... Lets make the user upgrade so it dosn't work on this computers os anymore! :rolleyes:

I don't know the specifics of your situation, but that' not all that uncommon.
Lots of software updates itself, and it's not uncommon for those updates to break something (that software, or other software, or the OS)...

It would be awesome if it never happened, but it does...

At work, that's why we have test machines that get all our deploys/updates first..

At home, when it happens, that's when I uninstall and re-install.
(Or if you have Restore points, those can work sometimes..)

It's the nature of the beast..
No software is perfect.  When it happens, it's unfortunate, but its not necessarily bad software..

And sometimes it's not "that software" that is the problem, but something else, and that install is just the trigger...

Windows ("dll hell" is a phrase that comes to mind, but it's not just that) is incredibly complicated....

As I've said in the past on other forums, if the only reason for AmigaForever is to decrease the number of people posting "I need a Workbench ROMz," then it's worth it to the Amiga community..

;-)

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Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 07:14:52 PM »
Quote from: kedawa;689628
It's retarded, and so is encrypting the ROMs that can be found on google in seconds.
I always thought that the encrypting of the ROMs was because of licensing.
Something they "had to do," not chose to do...
A way of being able to distribute the ROMs to be used only for emulation...

And they aren't encrypted really; they are just encoded.

As for the filenames, just remember that they are designing an "easy-to-use" system.
That type of thing generally involves doing things like that to keep people from poking too much and breaking things...  (And generating support tickets)

A large percentage of their target market will only ever use the interface, so it makes sense to keep it from being poked at...

They could have encrypted and signed the ADFs to keep serious techs out..
They didn't.  They just obfuscated them a bit, to protect from finger poking...


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Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

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Re: winuae woes.... And why amiga forever sucks...
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 05:43:36 PM »
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I can't even tell what game is what from the filenames that they assigned.
OK, finally tried AmigaForever...
First, I'm not sure what your looking at...
In the folder with the game files, I see the game names in the filenames.
They look like:
Cyberblast (Innerprise Software, 1992, Amiga).rp9
(I retyped that, so I'm not saying there's no typos!!)

I can easily tell what the game is based on those names.
(Older version didn't do that or ???)

Secondly, I'm impressed so far..
Not sure what I was expecting, but this appears to be a very nicely put together package from my few tests...
(Yes, it's based on a lot of Toni's work.  Not arguing.  Just talking about the AmigaForever specific bits.)
For the beginner/newbie, this looks really great (as I always thought it would be).

For the more advanced user, the configs seem to be fairly easily accessible and cover most options needed..
Again, only a brief look so far, but it's a nice looking package.
I really like the addition of AmiKit and AmigaSys (And AROS).  I haven't looked at those yet...  (Classic WB would be nice as well.  That's what I use on my Amiga 1200.)

I love the docs and VIDs being included.
Decent selection of games to start, some more popular ones included.

What would be awesome (not sure why I'm saying this now, other than it just popped into my head) would be an "app store" (tm) type of feature.
So, someone wants to sell an Amiga game (I know, but you never know.)
Say Babylonian Twins wanted to do that.
So, you have an "add" function, and there's a list of more available.  Some free, some not.  So you can select Babylonion Twins for $5.  Paypal checkout, and it DLs to your system.  (And for those that want to, they can export the ADF for their real Amigas...)

Just thinking out loud, but this looks to be a nice place to do that..
Maybe not..

Wish I had more time to play with it.  Hopefully this weekend..

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.