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Because not many people seem impressed regardless of price. So what is it people would really want from a new machine bearing the Amiga logo on it?
Ah!  That's the question, isn't it....

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1 Do you wan't the equivalent of the A1000 ie pricey but technically light years ahead of everything else for the price of a top end Mac/PC octa-core CPUd desktop? A machine so powerful that you could write games in BASIC/C that exceed PS3/360 games technically but will cost a lot.
Actually, the Amiga 1000 was pricey compared to the C64's and other 8-bits out there, and a bit more expensive than the first ST, but...
Compared to the Mac 512k, it was about $1000 less.  About $1700 (with a monitor and some memory) compared to about $2700 for the Mac..

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2 would you just like something that fills the role the A500 did, ie play the same sort of games due to similar technical abilities as the most advanced consoles on sale at the time?

With the success of the consoles today, I don't see how an Amiga could compete there at all...

For me, the Amiga was affordable (just able to swing an Amiga 500 with RAM, 2nd floppy and monitor), but it felt like it was cutting edge...

To do that now, it's not about 3D or better multitasking.  They all do that, it would have to be something new...

Perhaps a machine with a gesture based OS that actually works pretty well.  However, even MS's new Natal (Kinex or whatever it's called) is moving into that field, so it might be too late there..

But it would have to be something cutting edge and bringing it to the masses.
I mean, there were great graphics, GUIs and multitasking before the Amiga.  It just put it together and made it affordable...

I'm not sure what you'd need to do nowadays to fill that niche..
As much as I love to hate Apple, perhaps the iPad is this generations version of that paradigm??  Yes, the iPad isn't perfect, but neither was the Amiga 1000.. :-)

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Re: Given x1000 news is everywhere.....but nonchalance prevails
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 12:07:27 AM »
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That's your opinion. Many don't share it.
What's your definition of "many" in this instance?  ;-)
And I don't mean how many people like MorphOS, I mean of those, how many consider it Amiga?

I like MorphOS..  It's very kual..  But it's not Amiga...  
Inspired by..  Yes.  Partially compatible with, yes...

Even the MorphOS web page says:
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The project's  original goal was to create a new operating system...

It's a new OS.
Yes, it can run on some PPC equipped Amigas, but I can run SuSE Linux on a 68K Mac, that doesn't make the OS a Mac OS...  It's still Linux...

MorphOS is very nice..  Great work..  I hope it succeeds..  But it's not Amiga...

(Bringing it back on topic..)
The same way that the X1000 could be very kual (if expensive.. :-), but to me.. still not Amiga...

IMHO
Then again, I don't consider OSX to be Mac anymore..  :-)

It seems the market for something like the X1000 is getting smaller and smaller..
It's not Amiga fans, but a subset of...  Some (many?  :-) don't think PPC is Amiga.
So, of the Amiga fans that aren't concerned about CPU as a definition of their Amiga, the X1000 is aimed at them, but only a subset of THOSE fans..  Of those fans, only a smaller subset are willing to pay the prices asked/required for a souped up custom hardware based platform with the Amiga name on it...

AND, a percentage of those aren't going to like it because.. well they just don't like it because..  ;-)  So, it's that remaining subset that is apparently the market for the X1000...

Personally, the speed argument doesn't matter to me.  Is it too slow because it's numbers don't match a quad core Intel box?  All that matters to me is, how does it PERFORM when running it's OS?  If I can do everything I need to and it feel fast, then I won't care how many Mhz or cores I have..
But..  I (personally) can't justify spending that much on a computer...    I wish them luck tho..

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