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Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« on: March 16, 2010, 02:51:26 AM »
Quote from: persia;547769
Netbooks are cr@p, it's the iPad and all the iPad clones that it will inspire that are the real Amiga 500s..

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Thanx for that...

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Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2010, 03:11:57 AM »
I love these type of slamfests, they...  WHAT??? :confused:

Quote from: Hell Labs;548390
A very small amount of people know how computers work, beyond "press buttan, reccev porno".

There's more???  MORE PORNO??
AArrghhghghghhgh....

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Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 02:57:16 AM »
Quote from: pkivolowitz;548670
I don't know - fast forwarding to 2010 I don't really know what being "like an Amiga" means today. I think this is a really cool question though and would love to know what you folks think.

(as an aside: Carl Sassenrath was a genius)

Second about C.S.

And THAT is the question...

To be honest, I don't know...
I've had (and have) lots of computers.  Some I really like.  Some the perform incredibly (much better than my Amigas).  Some that were cutting edge.  Some that are.. er. .just bizarre...  I like almost all tech..

But the Amiga was about tech AND much more.
It was that feeling that we were part of something that was ahead of its time.  Not a few months or years even..

It was the elegance of the design...

When someone (on this or another board) asked about the best part of the Amiga, I answered "intuition", because I was able to write fully Windowed programs in C and actually understand what it was doing and why.

I can do that in other languages, but parts I understand and parts I don't.

I would describe the Amiga - hardware, software, interface, et al as elegant...  

I don't see that anymore...

I see bloated, incredibly badly designed devices that are only "incredible" because they have so much memory and CPU that it forces it's way past.

If you're a network person, you can kind of compare it to the Ethernet/Token Ring comparison.  Ethernet won.  It was so fast and cheap, it was inevitable..

But you look at what you have to do to get it where it is, switching to the port, and you still have collisions on the switch backplanes...

Then you look at Token-Ring..  Packets on the wire...  Upstream and Downsteam neighbors...  It was an elegant protocol...

Now, it's not the same extreme.  I don't run Token Ring at home still, and I do still use my Amigas. :-)

But I think that the combination of the incredible technology and the elegance of the design is what the Amiga is about to me...

Other machines have some great designs..  But I don't see what I see in the Amiga.  And now, there is so much power and RAM, there is no reason to be elegant...  It's just sad...  IMHO..

I don't see how there will ever be another computer like the Amiga..

But maybe..

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Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 03:48:34 AM »
Quote from: persia;548683
Bloat is in the eye of the beholder, the Amiga was bloated compared to the old CPM machine I started with.  I could put an operating system, a word processor and the data on a 90 MB disk, compared to that the Amiga was nothing but a bloated over powered hog.

I assume that was a typo?  90MB?  :roflmao:
Yes, I used CP/M before the Amiga too (if you really did)..

Quote from: persia;548683
And you programmed in C, how luxurious, you didn't really know what the system was doing underneath, you let the operating system put windows on the screen!  This kids today just don't know what it takes to make a computer work.

I didn't say that was all I did, just that I used C.  Jump to conclusions much???

Well, I don't feed trolls, so .... have fun..

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Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 06:09:59 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;548976
Sorry those ARE the facts, if you don't like them then take your bias to MS/Apple dedicated forums.

er..  Not quite sure who you were replying to, but it wasn't me...

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Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.