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Re: Theo de Raadt says Pegasos Bad
« on: March 25, 2004, 06:35:32 PM »
The one thing people in this thread don't realize is that Theo (and anyone else outside of the amiga "community") is used to having a certain minimum quality, support and low price on a motherboard.  Theo can walk into any shop in the world and buy a computer that has much better price/performance and accessibility than either the AmigaOne or either model of the Pegasos, and not only x86 - a Mac easily beats even a Pegasos on price.  That's just the way things are out in "the real world".  What happens when he complains about it?  a little red vs blue fight erupts, and he's accused of "impatience" and "not trying hard enough".

Guess what people - in the 21st century, people don't have to "be patient" or "try harder" when they buy a computer.  My Windows XP box is a *lot* better at that sort of thing than my AmigaOne, and I expect it to keep on being that even after I get AmigaOS 4 for it.  Sure, OS4 will be leaner and probably more fun to program (I expect similar things about morphos), but the degree to which users are expected to "grin and bear it" is from back in the computing dark ages.  I have put up with a *lot* of crap, just because it's an amiga; I've read both "reds" and "blues" with similar stories.  If I'd had to put up with  only one tenth of that when I bought a PC, that box would have been taken back to the shop in an instant.  Things have evolved over the past decade, out "in the real world".  Theo's not the one with the problem, the amiga "community" is.
 

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Re: Theo de Raadt says Pegasos Bad
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2004, 07:20:17 AM »
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Theo seems pretty stubborn and independent. Such is not a good example of a good programmer.


I beg to differ.  For example, Fabio is a pain in the ass to have a discussion with (being very "stubborn and independent"), but I have a lot of respect for his programming abilities; his work on Aros speaks for itself.  I think Theo is a very similar sort of person.

About the licensing issues with BSD, I for one am not at all surprised.  If Bill Buck didn't want to license the AmigaOS, why would he want to license some Unix variant?  I think he's generally averse to licensing anything.